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Which handheld will end up with more sales (lifetime)?

PSP 69 10.27%
 
3DS 522 77.68%
 
About even 81 12.05%
 
Total:672
Mnementh said:
Seece said:
Mnementh said:
Seece said:
KingdomHeartsFan said:

The real question is what would have to happen for 3DS not to outsell the PSP.

For it to continue its current trajectory.


Let's see.

year PSP 3DS
2005 9.6M  
2006 9.5M  
2007 12.8M  
2008 14.0M  
2009 9.9M  
2010 9.2M  
2011 7.5M 13.3M
2012 4.3M 14.5M
2013 3.1M 14.7M

Based on VGC yearly-charts. Looks for me, that current trajectory is above PSP. Also 3DS has already two years above the peak-year of PSP.

The problem with that is PSP was very steady for most of its life. No Nintendo system of late has shown that, when it starts falling it doesn't get back up again. See my thread on 3DS peaking in the first year in the US? (3DS looks overtracked to me as well).

Nintendo are gonna need something amazing to keep it anywhere near 14m this year.

You said the current trajectory suggests it wouldn't beat PSP. But the data shows, that the current trajectory shoots for way above PSP. Now you play a different song. I believe as you, that the 3DS will not have the same longevity as the PSP. But it is really hard to guess, which one will sell more. So you are ASSUMING it will drop in sales early enough, to prevent it from overtaking the PSP. That may happen or not, but it is nothing you can take from the data.

The current trajectory being the 3DS being down YOY in shipments (every Q this year). That is what I meant, I already explained that in the thread.



 

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Seece said:

The current trajectory being the 3DS being down YOY in shipments (every Q this year). That is what I meant, I already explained that in the thread.

So you used a different data-point, that still has 3DS above PSP in current shipment and shows only sloght decrease so it still stays above yearly shipments compared with PSP in it's prime years. Weak data to project a trajectory that let it sell worse than PSP. But, let's wait and see.

As I don't think Pezus will bump it if 3DS overtakes PSP, but only if it falls short, I will bookmark this thread too. And for the record: I personally have no idea about the outcome.



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The PSP will get discontinued in 2016 probably if it goes like PS2. So it still has around 3-4 million more sales and a total around 85m. I don't see 3DS doing more than 85-87m so it will probably reach the PSP and if it does manages to pass it, it won't be by much.



unless sales suddenly drop to 0... no



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MAYBE...

what games could push 3ds?

pokemon z?

ssb?

metroid?

i wonder what will be the next console pusher game... like animal crossing, 3d land, nsmb2, mk7, pokemon x and y and zelda game???? is it time for a pikmin remake for 3ds?



 

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Mnementh said:

Seece said:

The current trajectory being the 3DS being down YOY in shipments (every Q this year). That is what I meant, I already explained that in the thread.

So you used a different data-point, that still has 3DS above PSP in current shipment and shows only sloght decrease so it still stays above yearly shipments compared with PSP in it's prime years. Weak data to project a trajectory that let it sell worse than PSP. But, let's wait and see.

As I don't think Pezus will bump it if 3DS overtakes PSP, but only if it falls short, I will bookmark this thread too. And for the record: I personally have no idea about the outcome.

No I was talking strictly 3DS, not compared to PSP anything. If 3DS continues the trajectory of being down YoY I don't think it'll beat PSP. Pretty simple premise!



 

year PSP 3DS Pezus Proj.
First 9.6M 13.3M
13.3M
Second 9.5M 14.5M
14.5M
Third 12.8M 14.7M
14.7M
Fourth 14.0M 14.7M>
13M
Fifth 9.9M
11M
Sixth 9.2M
7.5M
Seventh 7.5M
4M
Eighth 4.3M
1.5M
Nineth 3.1M
0.5M

Fourth year, we'll say 3DS does less than year 3.  Current aligned totals after 3 are 31.9M for PSP and 42.5M for 3DS.    For PSP to start to have a higher trajectory after year 4, 3DS will need to sell less than 3.4M.  While it might sell less than the already stated 14.7 million, I doubt it's going to plummet all the way down to 3.4 million.  So the trajectory stays above PSP unless something very dramatic happens.

Pezus projections added for future reference.

 



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Seece said:

yet all these big 2014 games (Care to list them?) are going to propell it higher?


Bravely Default

One Piece: Romance Dawn

(2) Professor Layton games

Yoshi's New Island

Pokemon Bank

Conception II

Mario Golf

Super Smash Bros.

Kirby: Triple Deluxe

Disney Magical World

Several LEGO games

*plus any unannounced games (that's what Nintendo Direct does so well)

 

Some of these games are bigger than others, but they will all help push solid sales in multiple regions.  I see the 3DS as a system that will not die off quickly.  Sort of what happened with the PS360, and who saw those systems selling more than 80 million after only 3 years of release?  There is absolutely no way to say with any amount of certainty that it can't end up selling more than 100M units by its end.  It could still be around and selling more than 10 years on the market.  Nintendo handhelds often do unexpected sales, history has taught us that.



TheShape31 said:
Seece said:

yet all these big 2014 games (Care to list them?) are going to propell it higher?


Bravely Default

One Piece: Romance Dawn

(2) Professor Layton games

Yoshi's New Island

Pokemon Bank

Conception II

Mario Golf

Super Smash Bros.

Kirby: Triple Deluxe

Disney Magical World

Several LEGO games

*plus any unannounced games (that's what Nintendo Direct does so well)

 

Some of these games are bigger than others, but they will all help push solid sales in multiple regions.  I see the 3DS as a system that will not die off quickly.  Sort of what happened with the PS360, and who saw those systems selling more than 80 million after only 3 years of release?  There is absolutely no way to say with any amount of certainty that it can't end up selling more than 100M units by its end.  It could still be around and selling more than 10 years on the market.  Nintendo handhelds often do unexpected sales, history has taught us that.

All those combined could only wish for Pokemon sales. None of those are appealing to mass market.

DS died off pretty fast, 3DS is less popular. Sales are down YOY. 3DS aint lasting 10 years.



 

jonathanalis said:
depends how many years more nintendo will suport it without launching its sucessor.
It is selling less than GBA, but, GBA had a little lifetime. its sucessor was launched 3 or 4 years after it.
But with the new patters of industry, where a console lasts for much more time(7, 8 or more years), i believe nintendo will not launch its sucessor so soon.
Maybe they will wait wii U complete its lifetime cicle to launch an hybrid console.

I think you may be right. Also, they are merging handheld and home console engineers in the same building. The wii U itself could be the next handheld, since it is still possible to shrink the 40nm transistors and, in the end, may fit in the gamepad itself. In that case the 3DS would still be on the market for a long time (at least 4 years).