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the_dengle on 02 January 2014
pezus said:

I'm not joking about Minecraft being huge. Just exaggerating the effect it will have.

It will probably be the same price as on Live and PS3 ($19.99)

You say Minecraft has sold over 40 million, but Super Mario Bros. has also sold over 40 million. It's available through the eShop for just $5.

So, maybe Minecraft is tied for the biggest game ever to come to handhelds. XD



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Acevil on 02 January 2014
NiKKoM said:
pezus said:
Acevil said:
pezus said:

Is not as big as Minecraft. We're looking at something like 12-18m for a modern day Pokemon game was "the sky is the limit" for Minecraft. It has already sold over 40m, if I'm not mistaken.

Hmm sorry, but can you quote be the price of Minecraft on the vita versus PC and Xboxlive. I really don't think Minecraft on Vita will sell as well as you are discussing. I still think you are joking. 

I'm not joking about Minecraft being huge. Just exaggerating the effect it will have.

It will probably be the same price as on Live and PS3 ($19.99)

Minecraft Pocket Edition has sold at least 10 million.. There are rumors of having reached 16 million..

(reached 5 million december 2012 10 million in may 2013) and on christmas day they sold 143.000.. Just that day alone

Nikkom you of all people know that Mobile game doesn't sell the same volumes on consoles and handhelds. The userbase alone on the mobile alone is a huge factor. 



 

MDMAlliance on 02 January 2014
ryuzaki57 said:

Aielyn said:

1. This isn't specifically about the Wii U, and your attempt to troll is not appreciated. That being said, the Wii U had quite a few third-party titles in 2013. And yet, with the exception of a couple of minor new IP titles and a couple of games delayed from 2013, third-party Wii U games in 2014 have not been announced at all. Even the ones we KNOW are coming. That is a fact. And it's exactly the same regarding the 3DS (1)

2. Ubisoft, maybe - although I find it doubtful that they have zero titles for the 3DS (2). Sega released three titles for 3DS in 2013 (3), not including Mario & Sonic at the Olympics. Namco Bandai released 21 3DS games in 2013. Tecmo Koei released two titles for 3DS in 2013. But good for you for trying to demolish a solid argument for why 3DS's upcoming lineup might be stronger than the current schedule suggests while putting forward the idea that Vita digital sales are higher with ZERO justification (4).

3. You've missed the point - it's not that there's no risk, it's that Nintendo isn't going to give them a low-risk high-return opportunity like working with Smash Bros, Zelda, etc, without those publishers giving something in return. I have zero doubt that the agreement reached that led to these co-development situations involved further agreements by those publishers to also make other games for the Wii U and/or 3DS. Kind of like how Sega got to use Mario in exchange for making Sonic Lost World (and possibly the third Sonic title, which may or may not have Mario in it) a Nintendo exclusive.

There is no inherent benefit to Nintendo to contract their biggest franchises out to third parties if those third parties give nothing else in return. Nintendo would have been better off using the money to make another studio for themselves, and develop it all in-house.

Do you really think Nintendo doesn't have studios capable of making Smash Bros (5), given that they've made previous Smash Bros games? They gave it to Namco Bandai for a reason. NB will have games coming to the Wii U.

(1) Do you know anything the majority of people don't? 3rd party publishers have announced PS4/X1/X360/PS3 games that release end 2014/early 2015. Why would they hide only the WiiU/3DS projects?

(2) Please remind me what Ubi has released for 3DS in 2013.

(3) Every single Sega game on Ninty platforms was a bomba. I hardly recon they want more bombas.

(4) see above

(5) Nintendo has delayed quite a few in-house games since WiiU launched. It's ovbvious they can't keep up with development. Anyway, there is not fact pointing at more 3rd party games for Ninty platforms at this point.


1) Nintendo can make the decision on that, and just because SOME have doesn't mean we know all of them.  It applies for all platforms, but especially so for Nintendo platforms.

2) The way you word that is so you.  You're trying to make it seem like Ubisoft never does anything with 3DS, even though we know that's not true.  I'm not saying Ubisoft does have something, but your example sucks ass.

3) Another thing that is so you.  You use the word "bomba" for Nintendo way too much.  Source:  The majority of Media Create/Famitsu/etc weekly sales threads.  (Probably an exaggeration, but it wont be hard to see you saying bomba for Nintendo software while largely ignoring others)

4) Not even a real point

5) I do not agree with "can't keep up with development."  That's just something you want to believe.  For Wii U it may be true, but that is due to short time of experience with working with HD.  Other delays are most likely (if not for sure confirmed) to be delays for quality assurance. 



MDMAlliance on 02 January 2014
the_dengle said:
pezus said:

I'm not joking about Minecraft being huge. Just exaggerating the effect it will have.

It will probably be the same price as on Live and PS3 ($19.99)

You say Minecraft has sold over 40 million, but Super Mario Bros. has also sold over 40 million. It's available through the eShop for just $5.

So, maybe Minecraft is tied for the biggest game ever to come to handhelds. XD

Biggest game ever to come to handhelds?  That goes to Tetris.



NiKKoM on 02 January 2014
Acevil said:

Nikkom you of all people know that Mobile game doesn't sell the same volumes on consoles and handhelds. The userbase alone on the mobile alone is a huge factor. 

I know but minecraft is definitly something else.. To sell 12 million on pc.. Something like 8 million in the 360 and adding then 10+ million for the pocket edition.. Thats unheard off.. Minecraft will have its place in culture.. 



 

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the_dengle on 02 January 2014
MDMAlliance said:

Biggest game ever to come to handhelds?  That goes to Tetris.

I suppose it is. The line between re-release and new iteration for Tetris is really blurry. Can we actually say there have been multiple Tetris games, or is it all just the same game released with slight differences? (Tetris vs Tetris DS vs Tetris Axis, for example)



Acevil on 02 January 2014
NiKKoM said:
Acevil said:

Nikkom you of all people know that Mobile game doesn't sell the same volumes on consoles and handhelds. The userbase alone on the mobile alone is a huge factor. 

I know but minecraft is definitly something else.. To sell 12 million on pc.. Something like 8 million in the 360 and adding then 10+ million for the pocket edition.. Thats unheard off.. Minecraft will have its place in culture.. 

Oh it sure does, I played it every day for the past 2 years. 

(For those wondering that is where I been for the past two years, on a popular server, being part of the community)



 

Arius Dion on 02 January 2014

Is this a joke? Vitas a dud. Third parties supporting it is just more proof of a biased agenda regarding Nintendo. Not that it matters as the 3DS is dominating. But it is curious. The guy said developing for vita ruined him financially. What idiot would choose an installed base of 7m over 3DS'?



Bet between Slimbeast and Arius Dion about Wii sales 2009:


If the Wii sells less than 20 million in 2009 (as defined by VGC sales between week ending 3d Jan 2009 to week ending 4th Jan 2010) Slimebeast wins and get to control Arius Dion's sig for 1 month.

If the Wii sells more than 20 million in 2009 (as defined above) Arius Dion wins and gets to control Slimebeast's sig for 1 month.

MDMAlliance on 02 January 2014
the_dengle said:
MDMAlliance said:

Biggest game ever to come to handhelds?  That goes to Tetris.

I suppose it is. The line between re-release and new iteration for Tetris is really blurry. Can we actually say there have been multiple Tetris games, or is it all just the same game released with slight differences? (Tetris vs Tetris DS vs Tetris Axis, for example)


I would say that if you count the different iterations of Tetris as different games, then we should separate the different "updates" of Minecraft as different games since the difference between the iterations of Tetris are about the same as the "updates" of Minecraft minus the graphical differences.



the_dengle on 02 January 2014
MDMAlliance said:
the_dengle said:
MDMAlliance said:

Biggest game ever to come to handhelds?  That goes to Tetris.

I suppose it is. The line between re-release and new iteration for Tetris is really blurry. Can we actually say there have been multiple Tetris games, or is it all just the same game released with slight differences? (Tetris vs Tetris DS vs Tetris Axis, for example)


I would say that if you count the different iterations of Tetris as different games, then we should separate the different "updates" of Minecraft as different games since the difference between the iterations of Tetris are about the same as the "updates" of Minecraft minus the graphical differences.

Makes sense to me I suppose. Although the updates are free patches, aren't they?