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yo_john117 said:
bananaking21 said:
yo_john117 said:
Yep, the X1 is fast becoming dead in the water so selling it in about 50+ countries would have mean't they would come closer to selling most of their stock instead of having an absolute plethora of stock that seemingly not very many people want.


maybe that is an overstatement. there is demand for the xbox one, its just not as strong as we thought it was or enough to cause sell outs. 

Just wait until January...I think we'll see it go the way of the Wii U (but slightly better overall sales-wise).


i don't think quite wiiU levels but if january's NPD goes really bad (and i think it could) the press will turn on MS pretty hard.   xbone is pretty much guarenteed third party support (even if it is "low" rez) but sucess creates sucess.  seeing a huge decline in january will look really bad for MS.



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kitler53 said:

disagree.

MS made the biggest mistakes off all.   a terrible reveal event.   a terrible decision to sell at $500 in order to bundle kinect which most consumers value at $0.

sony might have "won" regardless but it's MS that will make it a significant win instead of a testicular pie.

I can't disagree with you... what I was saying is that launching at the same time even if MS did everything right Sony should be ahead in sales... and of couse the coincidence helped too: Sony doing the right and MS doing mistakes.

I'm just saying even MS make everything right Sony will be ahead in sales... MS just did it easy.



I think it was a mistake because they are giving Sony a head start in multiple territories. I also think that it's a result of several of the XBO's services being region, U.S., specific. Getting equivalent features for the varying territories around the globe has to be trying. It's another reason I think MS gearing the XBO's around non-gaming features to the detriment of hardware was a mistake. In short, They've a made more expensive console, with inferior technical specifications, that's harder to role out in different territories due to it's non-gaming features.



BTW guys... Xbone sales are great if you analyses them by the numbers alone... when you compare with PS4 sales that you make the mistake to think Xbone sales are bad.

PS4 have historical record sales... anything compared with it will look worst but Xbone sales are great and way better than Wii U for example.



Darc Requiem said:
I think it was a mistake because they are giving Sony a head start in multiple territories. I also think that it's a result of several of the XBO's services being region, U.S., specific. Getting equivalent features for the varying territories around the globe has to be trying. It's another reason I think MS gearing the XBO's around non-gaming features to the detriment of hardware was a mistake. In short, They've a made more expensive console, with inferior technical specifications, that's harder to role out in different territories due to it's non-gaming features.

I kind of agree... the first 10 million sales of a console come from gamers that didn't want these non-gaming features.

I think a better strategy was to deliver everything for gamer first and after add non-gaming features but MS was caught by surprise by the Soiny announce in February... that make everything hard to MS.



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Not having launched on those countries was handing them over to Sony on a platter. So, yes, it was a mistake cause Sony didnt limit their launch.
Is anyone predicted a big spring release of the X1 on the remaining countries without any buzz and holiday shopping rush? Nope. Not gonna, happen. By then the PS4 will be sporting Drive club and Infamous already.



It's probably a bit more complicated than looking at supply, since releasing in more countries also meant expanding their services into more regions, which in turn may not have been feasible by November. For similar reasons, why release the PS4 in Japan at launch when Japan-centric content isn't ready yet? Each company has to pick and choose it's battles based on what they have ready, and Microsoft probably wasn't ready to provide its services to more countries at launch. While it seems like PS4 has an early lead, the Xbox One still seems to be a success so far, although we'll likely get a better picture of the console competition next year.



ethomaz said:
Darc Requiem said:
I think it was a mistake because they are giving Sony a head start in multiple territories. I also think that it's a result of several of the XBO's services being region, U.S., specific. Getting equivalent features for the varying territories around the globe has to be trying. It's another reason I think MS gearing the XBO's around non-gaming features to the detriment of hardware was a mistake. In short, They've a made more expensive console, with inferior technical specifications, that's harder to role out in different territories due to it's non-gaming features.

I kind of agree... the first 10 million sales of a console come from gamers that didn't want these non-gaming features.

I think a better strategy was to deliver everything for gamer first and after add non-gaming features but MS was caught by surprise by the Soiny announce in February... that make everything hard to MS.

Not just MS, the whole world got caught by surprise by the Sony announcement in February. The way Sony was releasing exclusives during those past 2 years would have people and MS think they are not ready yet for next gen. And also the way MS has not releases any worth exclusives makes you think that they were already working on their next Gen.

Sony was not about to let MS have another year lead on the market. Which explains why Sony quickly released in so many countries. And when they realized the real demand was in the US, they sent a big shipment to amazon and wallmart that got sold out.



Eh time will tell.
Certainly USA is the best region for their console to sell. It makes sense to allocate more here, it's more valuable here than elsewhere. Plus shipping to other countries wouldn't have made as big an impact as if they have secured USA. I'd say it was a worthwhile gamble.



I don't think MS made a mistake. Keep up with demand in the biggest market in the world.

How many sales did Sony delay or lose because people were able to find an XBO and not a PS4?

Perhaps we will see a reversal from last gen. The PS3 started slowly and then built momentum over time. Maybe the XBO will also continue to build momentum.

Right now, neither system has a must have game. XBO has Ryse, Forza and DR3 and the PS4 has Killzone.

I really want to see what kind of impact Titanfall has when it is released. I think that game will be the first system seller on the market for either system. If MS markets the game right, I believe it can move a lot of systems with Titanfall.