To be as simple as I can: console retail AAA games is ALWAYS higher then digital. Always. No matter how optomistic your estimate is, it is still lower then GT5 opening week.

Just. Deal. With. It.

Maybe not a flop, but perhaps it's a bit of a plop?

Ok i did not want to bring this up, but ok, if this is so front an center about the digital sale through number's on content from Sony, where is the data? its not about melting down, its about calling out the claim for being what it is, many times i keep hearing this as poor digital data sale through number's on here but no proof, as a matter of fact Playstation Home for instance has very large digital sale through number's, yes that's not game's like retail sales, but you cannot sit there and call the sales through data "poor" of=r that they do not matter if there is not clear reference point. 

I ask again is this sate want to be as accurte as they can for number's or only when its convenient, to cause a spike in hits not because they want to be accurate in number's , but because it will be a hot topic that will net more result hit's?

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=166982

" magical digital sales which are always lower than you hope for major titles."

so you and other's are trying to frame the argument that digital sale copy's selling into the millions is somehow does not count for attachment number's, and that you cannot count them so only physical copy's count in the number's!

Do they count or not? Like i stated if you cannot count them than lets discount all digital sales through Data , if that is the case for every software copy.

But like i stated, the PS2 did not have an extensive online store, that the PS3 started off with, and that we have now on the tail end of the PS3's life time.

Trying to use that as a projection for sales data is one thing, but it is not the same type of sales environemt as it was 8 years ago.

Doesn't mean it can be anything you want.

Not 8 years ago, 3 years ago. GT5 was released November 2010.

we do not know what the sales data is!, is that not the point, trying to account for sale through data without including digital copys for attachment rates cannot really be done, because they cannot be accounted for. I mean is that one of the reason's Microsoft got so slammed by some gamer's about Always online being needed to connect once every 24 hours? the point is today we have smartphones and Tablets all connected to wifi, 3g /4G or cdma Networks, so online stores are more common now then they were 8 or 9 year's ago, so saying that in 1 weeks worth of data can net you really a clear sales data trends of a software iP is not very accurate, being that the sales market dynamic is not the same as it was back than so sales data through digital is much larger than it was 8 years ago, how many would buy digital day date week one, i mean if its not that large offing PSN games day in date with retail, means that there must be some number's generated for that online sale through if its being day and date released now.

And you are implying that those sale through digital copy's do not count to the attachment rate! you cannot have it both way's, you cannot call out software for being a disapointment for sales through data when the environment that the retail chain has changed from than to now, there is more stores that they are selling the software on, that we cannot track! if we are going week one, which this data is, how many digital copys are being sold?

http://www.vgchartz.com/article/250088/sony-uncharted-franchise-has-sold-1732-million-units/

I think Sony will release a PS4 version of GT6 next holiday so they can say the game sold 10 million + copies.

I am not claiming it is, what i am pointing out is with only 1 week data, without knowing how many digital copy's you cannot account for, we have no real clear picture what any " that means any software " sales through data for any software iP.