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Yes/No?

Yes 148 33.04%
 
No 274 61.16%
 
Other ( post below) 26 5.80%
 
Total:448

As far as i can tell and our media is pretty honest about the stuff happening and isn't covering everything in flowers he didn't do much wrong.

There are too many people inside the government against him and don't want his ideas turn into reality.
Of course all this crap with the NSA and hurting human rights all over the world that started before his time but gets public right now hurts him too.
They try to cover all these things up with flowers and lies but the real problem of the USA is inside and working against their president who probably could do these things if he had the possibilities.
If all this is reflecting on Obama and maybe even the black people you have far more problems than anyone could have expected.



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Nope. This did. 



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I think IMO Conservatives will always be pissed off, because in the long run generally they always end up "losing", because time marches on and progress happens and that progress is generally what they oppose almost all the time.

In the 60s people despaired when JFK/RFK/Martin Luther King were assassinated, but in the long term, civil rights prevailed, cooler heads prevailed with regards to nuclear war, and we live today in a much more progressive, inclusive, open society with more opportunities for all people and women as well of course.

The conservatives of the 60s "lost" the culture war, and they'll lose it in the future too. Gay marriage will happen, we'll have a Latino president probably soon, etc. etc. etc.

The future simply doesn't favor hanging on to the past. The "gubbermint spends my money!!!" guy will always be pissed off too because taxes are never going away and deficets run up no matter who the president is. There's simply no such thing as "small government" when you're talking about a country of 300+ million people, the largest military on the planet, the largest economy on the planet, etc. etc. That's just a pipe dream on paper. 



No, he set America back but I won't say by X amount of years. I just hope people begin to realize who really runs this country and it ain't the President.



ps3-sales! said:

Nope. This did. 

This type of shit pisses me off so much.



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el_gallo said:
RG3Hunna said:
 

So because Trayvon skipped school, he is a criminal? I bet you 50% of the users on this board have skipped school, does that make us criminals? NO!

Only 20% of kids are smoking pot? Where did you get these statistics from? When is the last time you have been to a highschool? Over 70% of highschool kids are experimenting with drugs and that's a FACT!!!! (I'm assuming you're a 40 year old Fox News watcher, because who uses the word pot?) lol

So because he got caught with weed he is a criminal? I'm sure a few posters in here have been caught with weed, does that make them criminals? No!

He knew he could never be the bad guy because he could just scream racism? If that's the case then why are so many african americans incarcerated if they can just scream "Racism"? See your point makes absolutely zero sense.

Black kids don't go tagging in black neighberhoods, the difference between black neighberhoods and white neighberhoods is in black neighberhoods they treat everyone the same regardless of color. If you come tagging in a black neighberhood, they will beat you within an inch of your life no matter what color you are, look at Chicago or Detroit if you need evidence. 

"IT's not racism it might be a little stereotyping" That is my FREAKING point, thank you for proving my point. I never said it was racism, I said blacks are stereotyped unfairly and you just proved my point.

Look at all the black stereotypes, they are all negative, only positives are (Big wang,Can dance, Play sports well). Now look at all the white stereotypes, they are all positive only negatives are the reverse of the black positives. 

"It might be a little stereotyping but in the abscence of information everyone relies on stereotyping a bit" ? No not everyone relies on stereotyping,only close minded morons rely on stereotyping because in their messed up world it's easier to judge someone on the color of their skin instead of get to know them. 


Does skipping school make you a criminal. Breaking any law makes one a criminal. It is the risk to return ratio. Does society bother to prosecute and is the occasional problem enough to treat like a serious breach of the law. I'm sure most people on the forums have sped as well. I got my facts from here. It shows a high of 22.5% for seniors and it is lower for other years of high school. The percentage using daily was pretty low, 6.5%. I consider what I said, 20% of high schoolers to be the fair average of the four years. It is not anywhere near what you said of course.

In many states, weed is a crime. Just because someone doesn't charge or prosecute doesn't mean it isn't a crime and the person doing it, a criminal.

Why are so many African-Americans incarcerated if they can get off by screaming racism? They do get off but when the rate of crime is so much higher, they get put away more. For example the murder rate is around 800% higher. If they get locked away 400% more that difference between the crime and time is partially the system not wanting to get accused of racism.

You yell about stereotypes but then state a stereotype, that everyone who tags in a black neighborhood will get beat. You complain about negative steretypes but then promote them. (Blacks are prone to violence, don't mess with them.)

You then talk about stereotyping unfairly. A stereotype is a mental shortcut that while not always true, has some truth to it. You just said beatdowns occur regularly in black neighborhoods. That is a stereotype. Is it an unfair one? No because that does happen. In the case of Martin, was it unfair to say that how he acted indicated a desire for and penchant for criminality? It isn't unfair. All the others you hit on, I'm not sure how people view those as negatives. Now if you started talking about where Chris Rock said you should hide your money, that stereotype is negative.

Now as for stereotyping, yes everyone relies on it and everyone does it a bit because no one has perfect knowledge of every situation. If you walk up and hit on a girl, you are assuming that about 95% of the time she wants a guy rather than a girl. The 5% of the time you are wrong isn't hate. Everyone has some ignorance about other groups and they fill in that ignorance with stereotyping. Get 30 black kids into a room and ask them what Japanese kids act like and do and you are going to here plenty of stereotyping.

Now moving it back to the actual thread topic, I'd say the financial loss under Obama for African-American in particular, but the country as a whole are huge. His policies are basically wealth grabs from young to old. He is mandating health young people buy expensive insurance so the rates don't go up for older people who need lots of heatlh care. In addition the black teen unemployment rate was about 29% when President Obama took office and in the middle of a massive recession. It is now between 41-43% in a recovery. That is a massive setback. Why are all the results negative if his policies are so great? Why is this the worst recovery from a recession ever?


How would they know? did they interview all highschoolers? If you were smoking weed in highschool and someone asked you for a survey would you answer you smoke weed? NO!

A lot of kids in highschool are smoking weed it's almost as normal as alcohol in our generation now a days. 

Show me where a black person got off screaming "Racism" for a crime and was let off?  I would LOVE to see this! Up until Obama was in office selling crack (a black drug) was a mandatory 10 year sentence for possessing 50 grams where cocaine (white drug) was hardly punished at all.

Crack vs Powder cocaine ratio was 100 to 1 and that was the system purposely trying to destroy blacks. Blacks sell crack because it's cheap and their poor customers can only afford $5 crack hits where whites sell cocaine and their white customers can afford expensive cocaine but it's hilarious they are essentially the same drug but prosecuted completely differently. 

Stereotyping that 95% of women like men is completely different then stereotyping all black people are criminals. 

Touching on another point you had in another post: The inner city black community was a mess under reagan are you kidding me? Raefel Edmond, Ricky Ross, Kenneth McGriff, Supreme Team, Alpo. I don't know where you're getting this "Blacks were better off under regan nonsense, look up how messed up black neighberhoods were back then. 

Almost everyone was selling drugs, addicted to crack, incarcerated or murdering in the 80s in black neighberhoods during reagan era. 



spurgeonryan said:

He basically did nothing right, other than have a gift for speeches and public speaking in general.

Kind of tells the whole world what to expect if an African American is president. Not saying I am saying that. Anyone could have screwed up as we saw with That idiot Bush kid who was President. But this was kind of like a big thing for African Americans. Finally getting full equal treatment. All of America voting for him and then he does a horrible job.

 

What do you all think?

Please no racism, because you know you will be banned! I am trying to ask this question without adding any racism in it, even though it is probably a touchy subject for some. Hard to do, but I hope I accomplished this.

 

 

You, starting this thread, sadly doesn't surprise me. Congrats.



I don't know about the internal stuff, as I'm not even remotely close to being an expert in USA and its internal problems, but as far as foreign policy goes, he's just such an idiot. I really can't express what a clown he is in this field. He's like a blind little kid walking around in darkness, has no clue about what's going on around him. Any single random republican would do a better job. Every single day with him in charge costs you more and more.
I mean, the way he recently got humiliated in Syria... Just painful to watch... It's gonna cost you dearly in the future to repair everything he's neglecting and messing up.



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RG3Hunna said:


How would they know? did they interview all highschoolers? If you were smoking weed in highschool and someone asked you for a survey would you answer you smoke weed? NO!

A lot of kids in highschool are smoking weed it's almost as normal as alcohol in our generation now a days. 

Show me where a black person got off screaming "Racism" for a crime and was let off?  I would LOVE to see this! Up until Obama was in office selling crack (a black drug) was a mandatory 10 year sentence for possessing 50 grams where cocaine (white drug) was hardly punished at all.

Crack vs Powder cocaine ratio was 100 to 1 and that was the system purposely trying to destroy blacks. Blacks sell crack because it's cheap and their poor customers can only afford $5 crack hits where whites sell cocaine and their white customers can afford expensive cocaine but it's hilarious they are essentially the same drug but prosecuted completely differently. 

Stereotyping that 95% of women like men is completely different then stereotyping all black people are criminals. 

Touching on another point you had in another post: The inner city black community was a mess under reagan are you kidding me? Raefel Edmond, Ricky Ross, Kenneth McGriff, Supreme Team, Alpo. I don't know where you're getting this "Blacks were better off under regan nonsense, look up how messed up black neighberhoods were back then. 

Almost everyone was selling drugs, addicted to crack, incarcerated or murdering in the 80s in black neighberhoods during reagan era. 


Do what you do man. I've given links. I've given numbers. You just repeat the same old stuff and no numbers, no links, no proof, no nothing. I mean if you did any reading the survey's are anonymous so people could say whatever without fear of getting caught up by their answers. You just sound like a person wants to point fingers and say it's the same as it ever was and not pretend like President Obama should be responsible for some of his policies. The man has borrowed about $7 trillion dollars to make everything better and who is seeing the results?



Scisca said:
I don't know about the internal stuff, as I'm not even remotely close to being an expert in USA and its internal problems, but as far as foreign policy goes, he's just such an idiot. I really can't express what a clown he is in this field. He's like a blind little kid walking around in darkness, has no clue about what's going on around him. Any single random republican would do a better job. Every single day with him in charge costs you more and more.
I mean, the way he recently got humiliated in Syria... Just painful to watch... It's gonna cost you dearly in the future to repair everything he's neglecting and messing up.


Because going to war in Syria would be such a great option, lol. It was funny seeing the Saudi's throw a hissy fit when they realized they couldn't use the US army as their private fighting force for their own purposes anymore. They were like a fat kid that just got told they're not getting to eat cake. 

That whole "chemical attack" stinks worse a false flag attack orchestrated by the Saudis worse than anything. There's no point in Assad using chemical weapons when it would just provoke the West when he was already winning the war. Total set up. 

F**k the middle east. Let them settle their own damn problems.