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Yes 148 33.04%
 
No 274 61.16%
 
Other ( post below) 26 5.80%
 
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RG3Hunna said:
withdreday said:

Only for people who were already racist to begin with...

Also, if George Bush didn't set white men back, then that answers your question right there. To be honest, it's a very silly question


Thank You!!!!!!

Bush made so many mistakes but he doesn't set whites back but let the black guy make mistakes and a select few feel he set black people back 20-50 years, it's hilarious. lol

Yeah, some people just love to attempt to justify their hatred and bigotry in some way. Even if Obama made Zero mistakes(which isn't even possible for a president) these types would be saying the same thing, no doubt about it.

Also the fact that they base a whole group off of one man is quite telling. It really tells you just the type of person they are.



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radishhead said:
From what I can tell (outsider perspective, I know) - Barack Obama did nothing particularly wrong; he just couldn't get anything done in the country because Republicans in Congress always completely refused to agree to anything he suggested, and refused to compromise.

General rule of thumb; when a US party is accused of failing to compromise, it's probably propaganda. The Republicans and Democrats are both at fault for the state of things today.

Also, under Obama's watch; Benghazi, NSA/Snowden (which covers internet/phone/who knows what else), IRS scandals, healthcare.gov, hell, ACA in its entirety has been a big mess, and Fast and Furious... Probably more. It would be silly to place all the blame on him, but he's definitely done plenty of things wrong.

OP: Obama could have been percieved much better had he been president during a much calmer time. Maybe during the Clinton years. There would be less for him to screw up. Though he'd have to do a hell of a lot better with his healthcare, because this has been a complete clusterfuck. But no, I don't think his lacklustre performance as President has set African Americans back.



el_gallo said:
Figgycal said:

How does him being elcted set black people back? Are lynchings a thing again? Is segregation making a comeback? Are black people not allowed to vote anymore?

Also: "Finally getting full equal treatment?" There's so many things wrong with that. That's not what happened. Black people didn't suddenly get respect because there's a black man in office. Black people are still discriminated against heavily since Obama got elected. Even amongst his peers, he is known as the "lazy president" "the foodstamp president" "a spearchucker" "shucking and jiving". There is a level of racism that goes into the criticism of the president. The people making these types of comments against Obama are the ones setting white people back 50 years.

"He did nothing right?" You cannot be serious with that. See how many things he accomplished in just his first 2 years, before the Tea Party movement. Also you claim "he does a horrible job" without looking at why. It's not just because he's a bad leader - he is constantly being opposed by the Republicans in congress and nothing gets done because of it.


He has set back African-Americans and most of America as well. The issue isn't so much that President Obama has personally gone into homes of African-Americans and sought to harm them but they excuse his incompetence while harming their own pocketbooks.

This isn't just an Obama/America thing. You see it in dozens of large metro areas all run by Democrats with black mayors that have become gigantic hellholes but nothing changes because as a group, they fear racism more than pointing out incompetence among their own.

Also the sort of name-calling and so forth you declare to be racism with Obama happens to every president. Bush before him was called a moron, and an idiot. He was caricatured as an actual monkey due to his ears. Bush generated jobs but people criticized them as McJobs and complained that everyone had three of them just to get by. Bush was absolutely labeled as intellectually lazy by his critics. No one declared that President Obama doesn't like white people when Hurricane Sandy caused massive damage, lots which still hasn't been fixed.

You prove my first point with your last point. Obama had supermajorities his first two years in office. He lost them largely through pursuing an agenda that people disagreed with but also because the Democratic Party lied about ending wars, lied about balancing budgets and getting rid of cronyism. They had both the House and Senate since 2006 and that is important to note because Clinton and Bush were both expected to govern even when the opposing party had some control. Believe it or not George W. Bush only had his party in control for 4 out of his 8 years in office. In 2000, a Senator flipped parties and gave the Senate to the Democrats. Then in 2006 his party lost both the Senate and the House.

It is not appropriate to say the guy can't do his job unless he has supermajorities in both the House and Senate becuase he ran on a platform of changing the culture of Washington and uniting the country. The point is he lied about that and the lies cost his party the House of Reps. Now due to health care lies, it will probably cost his party the Senate and grow the Republican edge in the House.

Barack Obama is a hyper-partisan, incompetent hack of a president. It has nothing to do with skin color though. He'd be just as bad and his policies and procedures just as terrible no matter his sex, race or orientation. The issue though is that his own constituents and his own party will never give him the blame and force him to change because of who he is and that is the real problem that sets back the African-American community in particular but the country as a whole.

This X 1000.  The sad thing is that for some reason people think the Reps/Conservatives should just go along with everything Obama wants, and that equals compromise.  Heck, some of the more left leaning Reps do.  Still, this IS NOT what this country was set up to be like.  That would make the Congress just a big show, and our Republic would be a Dictatorship. Those Reps in the House were actually voted in to stop Obama, and the Dems who were in control for 2 years, from doing whatever they wanted.

It's also incredibly ridiculous to act like Obama has some great hardship in getting things passed in the Congress.  In fact, he had it pretty good for the first few years, seeing as he is living in an ever growing PC America, where some were afraid to even criticize him for fear of being called racist.  And EVERY president has had to deal with the opposing party.  Some are good at it, others are not.  Obama just falls under the category of "are not."  Mainly because he doesn't like to comprimise, himself.



No, but the democratic party has. Its sad to see an entire generation of black americans fall apart and continue to vote in the very people that are killing them.



I haven't seen any White only signs at public restrooms, and I don't have to give up my seat for a White person, so no.



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Of course not.

For people who aren't racist they will judge the Obama presidency without judging the entire African American demographic. The next African American candidate who comes forward is no more or less likely to get their vote than before 2008.

For people who are racist, they are already living >50 years in the past, so nothing has changed for them. And none of these people voted for Obama in either election. And they won't vote for the next African American candidate.

People who say they aren't racist but say they are less likely to vote for another African American candidate because of Obama, actually are and have always been racist.



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Scisca said:
I don't know about the internal stuff, as I'm not even remotely close to being an expert in USA and its internal problems, but as far as foreign policy goes, he's just such an idiot. I really can't express what a clown he is in this field. He's like a blind little kid walking around in darkness, has no clue about what's going on around him. Any single random republican would do a better job. Every single day with him in charge costs you more and more.
I mean, the way he recently got humiliated in Syria... Just painful to watch... It's gonna cost you dearly in the future to repair everything he's neglecting and messing up.

Polish, right? I'd imagine you guys were more in favor of Bush's policies and his tough stand against Russia. But i think Obama's done what pretty much any president would have done. Libya was doable, Syria really can't be intervened in, not with nobody at all else willing to touch it. Antagonizing Russia pointlessly over missile shields was a dumb waste of diplomatic capital in the meantime.

It does certainly look like Obama got schooled in the Syrian Chemical weapons incident, but ultimately we got the best solution we're going to get: voluntary surrender and destruction of the weapons. Less fortunate is that Assad will continue to rule there for a long time, since the FSA has been compromised and now the opposition is pretty much all people that everyone (except the Gulf Monarchies, but fuck those guys) will like less than Assad himself.



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While I certainly think he has done harm to America I think that all president's in history have been generally terrible.

And I don't blame them for screwing things up. Managing a nation to the level that presidents have been trying to do in ever increasing amounts just does not work.

As far as I'm concerned the government should go back to its original role of protecting us from other nations and each other.



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adriane23 said:
I haven't seen any White only signs at public restrooms, and I don't have to give up my seat for a White person, so no.


Instead you are just mandated to give up your health via an expensive and mandatory health care plan.



Figgycal said:
Lol no. Republicans in Congress has kept us int he Bush era.


This is the problem with the two party system.

When one side messes up they blame the other side whenever they can.



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