el_gallo said:
RG3Hunna said:
So because Trayvon skipped school he was a criminal? Because Trayvon acted up in school he was a criminal? Because Trayvon was suspended from school he was a criminal? Because Trayvon Smoked weed he was a criminal? That's my point, how was he a criminal if he hadn't been convicted of anything yet? Majority of teen boys are smoking weed, skipping school, being suspended does that make them a criminal? no, that's what some teen boys are doing.
How was Trayvon acting like a criminal? walking in the rain with a hoodie minding his business is acting like a criminal? HIs female friend even said he was on the phone with her and said "This creepy *** C****** is following me". So how in the world was he acting like a criminal?
This is my point, when black teen boys aren't prosecuted harshly its because people like you think "they'll be labeled a racist by blacks". But what about the countless instances where white teen boys aren't prosecuted harshly?
So because he drew "WTF" on the door that makes him a criminal? I know a girl who drew male genetalia on desks and she was suspended, does that make her a criminal? no, kids do stupid stuff, they're kids.
Black teen boys and white teen boys who commit the same offense aren't judged the same and that's a FACT!
Proof Below
Part1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cCQU0jt4cs
Part2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLXCCcqnY-I
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Yes because Trayvon Martin skipped school he is a criminal. Truancy is a crime. He isn't a criminal because he was suspended from school, rather the suspension became the slap on the wrist for things that should have been escalated to criminal proceedings. However he tagged the school, got caught with drugs and clearly got caught with the proceeds from a theft. Those are all crimes. The school didn't refer it to law enforcment. The should have done so and saved the boy from himself.
First the majority of teen boys are not smoking pot. Surveys show use at about 20%. That said a crime is a crime. On top of that these issues are compounded that is the real problem. A small problem becomes a big problem when not dealt with when it is small. What percentage of the population do you think is not just smoking pot but walking around with stolen jewely, tagging, and engaging in assault? That percentage has to be very low.
You quote Martin and show his own racism. The guy who got busted with the pot baggie, who allegedly assaulted a bus driver, who got caught with jewely and was caught on video tagging school property wasn't the bad guy. He knew he could never be the bad guy because all he has to do is scream racism and all is well. Martin can even ENGAGE in racism by calling someone a racial slur and it isn't really a slur because, well it's the source that determines such things, not the actual actions right? As for other people and if they are prosecuted, I know plenty of people who end up on the hook for smaller stuff. It is national policy to try to lower black criminal and prosecution rates because they are so high. However they aren't high because people are racist. They are high because people are engaging in those actions and folks like yourself just say "everyone is doing it." Everyone isn't doing it and in most other communities that stuff is hit square on the head and dealt with pretty strongly. There are people who slip through the cracks and who screw off with a bunch of high risk behaviors. When they end up dead it isn't a national cause.
Under Obama....
Black poverty UP
Black unemployement UP
Black teen unemployment UP
Black labor force participation DOWN
Black to White income gap UP
Black family dissolution UP
Black wealth and percentage of overall share DOWN
Black poverty rate under Ronald Reagan was down to 11%. Under Obama it is over 25%.
However up is down and down is up when someone can scream racism and turn the brain off.
Also I've seen those videos and that set up a half dozen times. First the black kids are smaller. Two of them are barely bigger than the woman that talks to them for four minutes. They use kids, not adults. You look at the white kids and they are bigger and taller. Second they use as a measurement calls to the police but then they intervene on the man who is confronting them before he calls the police.
However all that said, all that happened in supposed horrible racist America is that some people witnessing a crime called more on it in once instance than another. They didn't lynch them, shoot them, beat them, or even confront them. No pick up trucks with shotgun racks rolled up where a bunch of white people, certain they are superior and others inferior decided they would let them know now how things are "around these parts."
Are we to believe, and would you seriously suggest that if the reverse happened that no one would approach or confront the white kids in the black neighborhood? They never run the situation in reverse. They don't take two cars into a black neighborhood and then show a bunch of smaller sized white kids clowning, tagging and beating on the car. Also the black kids answered outright that it wasn't their car. The white kids reflected the question back and didn't answer the question. The expert even mentions that part of the issue is that the kids are clearly from a different neighborhood. That isn't racism. Racism is believing another race INFERIOR. It might be a bit of stereotyping but in the absence of information everyone relies on sterotyping a bit. This is true of women who don't want to walk to a car alone in the dark. It doesn't mean they hate men. It doesn't mean they think men inferior. It means they are stereotyping in the absence of known information. Now the people asked the kids the question and the black kids said it wasn't their car. Point blank that is coping to a crime and that means people call. I would bet money that many more people in the reverse situation would be willing to take the law into their own hands in the black neighborhood. Because of their own racism, I'd even bet that in the black neighborhood, they'd declare that since the law doesn't prosecute white people (your own claim as well) that they might as well get justice themselves and on their own terms.
No justice, no peace right?
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So because Trayvon skipped school, he is a criminal? I bet you 50% of the users on this board have skipped school, does that make us criminals? NO!
Only 20% of kids are smoking pot? Where did you get these statistics from? When is the last time you have been to a highschool? Over 70% of highschool kids are experimenting with drugs and that's a FACT!!!! (I'm assuming you're a 40 year old Fox News watcher, because who uses the word pot?) lol
So because he got caught with weed he is a criminal? I'm sure a few posters in here have been caught with weed, does that make them criminals? No!
He knew he could never be the bad guy because he could just scream racism? If that's the case then why are so many african americans incarcerated if they can just scream "Racism"? See your point makes absolutely zero sense.
Black kids don't go tagging in black neighberhoods, the difference between black neighberhoods and white neighberhoods is in black neighberhoods they treat everyone the same regardless of color. If you come tagging in a black neighberhood, they will beat you within an inch of your life no matter what color you are, look at Chicago or Detroit if you need evidence.
"IT's not racism it might be a little stereotyping" That is my FREAKING point, thank you for proving my point. I never said it was racism, I said blacks are stereotyped unfairly and you just proved my point.
Look at all the black stereotypes, they are all negative, only positives are (Big wang,Can dance, Play sports well). Now look at all the white stereotypes, they are all positive only negatives are the reverse of the black positives.
"It might be a little stereotyping but in the abscence of information everyone relies on stereotyping a bit" ? No not everyone relies on stereotyping,only close minded morons rely on stereotyping because in their messed up world it's easier to judge someone on the color of their skin instead of get to know them.
