el_gallo said:
Figgycal said:
There's a history that comes with some of the insults used agains Obama - a long history that doesn't work the same way with white people. These are politicians calling Obama these insults - not everyday citizens. Saying Obama is chucking spears, or that he is shucking and jiving, or that he's the food stamp president is blatantly racist. Again these are politicians making using these stereotypical insults. Kanye West was the guy who said George Bush hates black people - not one of his peers in office.
"No one declared that President Obama doesn't like white people when Hurricane Sandy caused massive damage." Again you're blaming Obama for something that Republicans are largely responsible for. In the House 179 republicans voted no to Sandy Relief efforts - as opposed to 1 democrat. And in the Senate 36 republicans voted no - as opposed to 0 democrats. What is Obama to do? Become a dictator and mandate action to be taken place? George Bush had a distinct ack of reaction to Katrina.
And why yes: many conservative personalities have claimed that Obama hates white people. Many people from Bill O'Reilly, Hannity, Limbaugh, and even his fellow politicans have. Again compare those people to Kanye West who said that on MTV with people with actual power:
http://www.pressherald.com/politics/LePage-is-heard-to-say-Obama-hates-white-people.html
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/glenn-beck-obama-is-a-racist/
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/01/bill-oreilly-its-clear-obama-does-not-like-republicans-he-doesnt-like-white-privilege-video/
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The point remains, that all presidents are caricatured. They are ridiculed. They are mocked and undermined by people within the country who opposed them. The intent doesn't really matter and that is part of what keeps the African-American community down.
First a point, racism didn't used to mean just insensitive to a group, or ignorant about their culture or community. It used to mean what it still means. It meant someone thought their race was superior and another race, inferior. Could it be said that declaring someone is a food stamp president is insensitive? Sure I can buy that but people leveling insults aren't exactly trying to be sensitive. However if someone is saying President Obama is a food stamp president are they really saying that black people are inferior and white people superior? That I don't buy at all.
As for Hurricane Sandy, you must be thinking of a different bill and again you are excusing incompetence. First this link shows the relief bill passed the House 354-67. Perhaps there was a different bill that didn't pass but that one did and had plenty of votes to spare. As for what President Obama is responsible to do, he has to take the interests of the other party into consideration when governing. That is why it is called BIPARTISAN. You don't run on bipartisanship, shut the other party down and then complain and call it racist when they won't give you 100% of what you want. That is exactly what he did the first two years he was in office. Even now his bills reflect only the interests of those who elected him.
I did go look up the bill you were talking about and it was an additional bill. However the opposition was not because of President Obama or because of his race. It was because there is a small faction out there that think tha that when a government has borrowed $17 trillion dollars it should spend a little less in regular areas to offset emergency aid. These are the same Republicans that voted to cut military spending. They are completely consistant and wanting the numbers to add up doesn't equal racism.
As for the links I assure you that within the black community people will listen to Kanya West a lot more than they would ever listen to LePage, Reilly or anyone else. Those folks have much less power because the people listening to them or tuning them out come from an array of perspectives. You will not find 93% of any other ethnic group turning out disporportionately and listening to one voice or voting for one person. Their networth was lower, their pocketbooks were more empty and their unemployment had gone up a few points under his first term but none of that mattered, they pulled their lever on a vote for him not for the job done, but because of the face. That IS racism plain and simple. President Obama was supposed to be a uniter, smarter, more honest, better intentioned and just more capable. George W. Bush, a claimed idiot, could convince Democrats to vote for his education bills, his wars, you name it. Bill Clinton wiped the floor with Gingrich when Republicans shut down the government on him. President Obama is never accountable for his own governing. It is alway the fault of someone else he doesn't succeed.
Well that lie is set to blow up in his face because his health care plan is owned entirely by him and passed entirely by the Democratic Party and it is TERRIBLE.
The bill clearly is a cash grab from young to old. It will raise the rates and cancel the plans for almost everyone who is employed, young, married or healthy. The opposition from how terrible it is and the incompetence from it will be massive.
Let me put my prediction in an envelope and you can unseal it for later. It wasn't President Obama's fault the program is terrible. See it originated from Mitt Romney, so it is Republicans fault. That darn Republican in Mass lied and a bunch of Democrats in Mass bought the lie and passed his bill. Now Obama bought the lie and so did all the Democratic Super Majorities in both the Senate and House. They all bought the lie of one person. It is that evil one Republicans fault that so many Democrats did what they did. (This is just another version of Bush lied and thus people aren't responsible for their own votes.)
They could fix the bad program, with the terrible website all accomplished by one bad man telling his bad lies. However now the fix isn't the responsibility or problem of the president either. It will be those mean, terrible House Repulbicans who are lying, and who are racist, and who don't want the ACA to succeed and by succeed we mean run as the law states but didn't realize because we bought a lie.
You can book it. If you've looked at the ACA plans they are terrible. They give young people deductables of several thousand dollars all while charging them a few thousand dollars per year. No one will buy giving the government $3000-4000 a year for health insurance so you can pay another $5000 in deductables before the insurance kicks in. $9-10k isn't affordable to a young person nor is it free or affordable health care which is what was promised.
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