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Yes/No?

Yes 148 33.04%
 
No 274 61.16%
 
Other ( post below) 26 5.80%
 
Total:448

People have a really bad memory and are really bad at thinking about serious subjects like these. The problem is not that Obama is bad, the problem is that he's black and for the people that are not racist, that he hasn't been as good as they expected.

So they're a bit disspointed which is normal because people expected so much out of him, while no one expected anything good from W.
So putting people's racism, nostalgia and unrealistic expectations, Obama might be one of the best president's US has ever had.



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Now Obama is not perfect in any way, and i don't agree with him in a lot of things, but anything is better than a republican and Obama is better than most democrats.



All american presidents are failures under the control of higher ups.



All of america is set back 50 years. Blaming Bush with no solutions. Spending more than every president before him combined with nothing to show for it. Fucking up my health insurance I was perfectly happy with. The Worst President Ever. Not to mention the printing of money and the bold face lies.



 

About equal to Bush. In the running for one of the 10-15 worst.



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radishhead said:
From what I can tell (outsider perspective, I know) - Barack Obama did nothing particularly wrong; he just couldn't get anything done in the country because Republicans in Congress always completely refused to agree to anything he suggested, and refused to compromise.


I guess trying to push Sopa without anyone knowing is nothing wrong.

Passing obamacare which will cost many citizens thousands of dollars and forced them get rid of there current program(like me).

Sending more people to war than geroge bush.

telling people there sending troops home to just re-name troops as under-contract workers.

says he isn't working with lobbyist yet the biggest supports are lobbyist in his campain. 

Bank bailouts to companies that never told us were the money went after they got it. Jp Morgon.

Ok drones which killed many citizens in the war which never did crime in there life killing children and mothers.

I'm say republicans are perfect far from it but this world were democraits are the Gods of morals and logic is starting to show a delusional pattern were people will follow whatever they say even if it meant jumping in a oven.



"Excuse me sir, I see you have a weapon. Why don't you put it down and let's settle this like gentlemen"  ~ max

Can you put any reason why he "put african american's back 20-50 years"? i dont understand the point... do you know how was the situation of the african american 50 years ago?????



 

el_gallo said:
RG3Hunna said:
So because Obama hasn't had the success that we all hoped that means he set black people back?

This is what I don't understand about some people, blacks are always judged unfairly off of what another black has done negatively. If Deandre goes and robs the bank, that doesn't mean all black males are bank robbers.

For every Deandre the bank robber there's a barrack obama and for every Lorenzo the drug dealer there's a hermain cain.

This is the one thing that infuriates me about our culture, Blacks are always judged unfairly off of the negative someone with black skin has done. This is what made the black community upset about the Trayvon situation, sure Trayvon might have attacked Zimmerman and he was wrong for that if he did but the point was it never would have happened if Zimmerman didn't follow him and the only reason Zimmerman followed him was because he looked "suspicious" and there's nothing more suspicious in america then a black man in a hoodie in a wealthy neighberhood and we've been trained to believe that nonsense. :(

You've got it backwards. You are correct that when Deandre robs a bank, it doesn't mean that all black males are bank robbers. However per our culture today, it also doesn't mean that Deandre is a bank robber. See Deandre had to go to an inner city school where he didn't learn anything. He had no father figure to keep him in check. His mother was poor and often unemployed. The man was just playing the hand he was dealt. He didn't want to rob a bank. He was just making use of the only path available to him.

That is what we hear all the time. It is what we hear with President Obama right now. He isn't a bad president. He wants to fix everything. He made those promises but the problem is society, Republicans, racism, you name it. He was supposed to be the person who couldn't be held back or kept down and instead the same old excuses are trotted out as to why he has been incompetent and ineffective.

You note the Trayvon Martin situation. You blame Zimmerman for following him. The reality is that Martin was supposed to be in school. He was supposed to be with his Mom. He was supposed to probably be dealt with for petty theft and drug possession so he didn't think he could go around and clock someone in the first place but the system won't deal with Martin on that level because when it does, it is labeled racist.

Does that completely excuse Zimmerman? No but we want a perfect reaction to an action when that action has been allowed to go on too long and get too big. Life isn't that way. Zimmerman thought that Martin looked suspicious becuase he acted like a criminal. The point was Martin was a criminal. He hadn't been prosecuted for it, just had the school system slap his hand a bit out of fear they would be labeled racist but the point was he was engaging in criminal behavior. Assault, drug use, vandalism and theft are all crimes. Martin was suspended for scribbling WTF on a door but when looking for the market they "found" 12 pcs of ladies jewelry, and a man’s watch, in addition to a flat head screwdriver described as “a burglary tool”. They were turned in as found items when they should have been treated as theft. If they had been dealt with accordingly Martin might be alive today.

So because Trayvon skipped school he was a criminal? Because Trayvon acted up in school he was a criminal? Because Trayvon was suspended from school he was a criminal? Because Trayvon Smoked weed he was a criminal? That's my point, how was he a criminal if he hadn't been convicted of anything yet? Majority of teen boys are smoking weed, skipping school, being suspended does that make them a criminal? no, that's what some teen boys are doing.

black and white boys acting like "Boys", yet let me guess you'll say the reason why they weren't prosecuted is because the blacks will scream racism? lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azUbx8XwOlU

 

How was Trayvon acting like a criminal? walking in the rain with a hoodie minding his business is acting like a criminal? HIs female friend even said he was on the phone with her and said "This creepy *** C****** is following me". So how in the world was he acting like a criminal? 

This is my point, when black teen boys aren't prosecuted harshly its because people like you think "they'll be labeled a racist by blacks". But what about the countless instances where white teen boys aren't prosecuted harshly? 

So because he drew "WTF" on the door that makes him a criminal? I know a girl who drew male genetalia on desks and she was suspended, does that make her a criminal? no, kids do stupid stuff, they're kids. 

Black teen boys and white teen boys who commit the same offense aren't judged the same and that's a FACT!

Proof Below

Part1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cCQU0jt4cs

Part2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLXCCcqnY-I



Did George W. Bush set back white people? It's a racist premise honestly that you're presenting, that black people somehow have to be represented entirely by one person to begin with. I'm a white person and even I can say that, lol.

I don't even think Obama is doing that bad of a job, the economy is turning around no matter how the pundits want to spin it from a monumental collapse that occurred before his presidency, the US mainland has enjoyed relative safety, he got bin Laden, we are no longer stuck in Iraq, and the US is even beginning to broker peace with Iran.

There have been worse presidents and certainly he has had to govern in an extremely difficult economic situation. The big blight on his presidency for me is the NSA stuff, but if they can make progress on that with the bigs at Apple, Google, MS, etc. pushing for it, that will be a good thing.



The interesting thing is that most people seem to believe the US President is all powerful. He can dictate his will on any subject and policy and he has the power to make everything right or wrong in America.

I believe before anyone can judge Obama, they must first fully understand how the US system work. The president power is very well defined and limited.

I can give you links to where Obama has supported something that the republicans asked for and they then voted against it because he supported it. This has happen time and again. Even on the budget when the Democrats gave the Republicans exactly what their web site stated we needed for a balance budget and growth as soon as Obama gave his OK, the Republicans changed their whole stance. Its one thing to be oppose to a President but Republican made it a mission to derail anything Obama tried to get done no matter if it hurt their own constitutes.

I did not even vote for Obama and there are some things I believe he could have done but I even question that because of how the Republicans made it a mission to make him a one term President no matter the cost.

The problem with most American is that they do not do any research. They listen to people tell them things and never question those people motives. This whole thread is about the OP evidently getting his info from one source and never having the balls to actually go and research his opinion. No where in the OP does he even try to make an informed opinion. He does not show what Obama voted for or vetoed, he does not show what Obama has supported or not supported and he has not tried to show how Obama has either lead policy in an area or hampered.

If we even look at the Affordable Healthcare act this was a republican ideal, its the same plan Rommy was going to institute but it turned evil because Obama supported it.

Jay Leno did this on the street report where he asked people about Obama care and the Affordable Healthcare act. All the people stated that they did not support Obama care but when asked about the Affordable Healthcare act they said they fully support that. The sad part is that a lot of people really do not know that they are the same thing and even worst they do not know what is in the act. There is a lot of good stuff and then there is the government crap which comes along with it.