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Kasz216 on 09 December 2013
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Mr Khan said:
Kasz216 said:
stlwtng4Dmdrxip said:
Now Obama is not perfect in any way, and i don't agree with him in a lot of things, but anything is better than a republican and Obama is better than most democrats.

Really?  Policy wise i'd say he's been more or less exactly like George W. Bush... but with healthcare.

I mean... if you need any further proof... just look at the huff po leak.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/08/tpp-trade-agreement_n_4409211.html

 

If anything, Obama shows that the Democrats really need their own tea party movement.  Both parties are far from what they claim to be.

The democrats know better than that. Getting too bogged down by the left wing is what made the 1980s into a lost decade for the party, and so the party's left has been kept suppressed almost permanently since.

I mean, we've seen what the Tea Party's actually done to the Republicans. Middle America has said Hell No, and will continue to do so until the GOP puts a lid on the wingnuts.

I mean...  I guess... but what's the point.  Obama is campaigning around the world against the bank regulations he said would of saved us from the GFC.

I mean, shit, if the GFC showed anything it was that the Democrats are even more in wallstreet's pockets then the Republicans.

Plus i think the hard left is an easier sell then the hard right at the moment.


I mean sure, it lost them the 80's... but look at the circumstances.  In the 80's we were facing down Communist Russia... and their nukes.

Compaired to now where I'd argue the US hasn't been so Dovish since Pre-WW2 Roosevelt, where he had to lie about trying to get us involved in WW2 just to keep his job.

I mean, compare the Tea Party to Occupy Wallstreet.

 

OWS was mostly just met with disinterest.

 

I'd argue the message doesn't even have to be much different from the current Democratic message.  They just need to call out their higher ups out.

Which is argueably close to already happening.  What with harry reid getting bullied into voting for the "Nuclaer option" veto resolution and hard campaign against Larry Summers when he was all but set.