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LivingMetal on 04 December 2013
Digi30 said:
LivingMetal said:
jlmurph2 said:
Seems like those supply issues are really getting to them, 700k in all of EU isnt what anyone predicted. And only 300k for Black Friday is gonna get demolished by the Xbox supply.


Yes, it's oh-so horrible!  We have to despair! The end is near!

Meanwhile back in reality...

Iknow it's still early, but so much is pointing towards the progressing success of the PS4.

Now if they only had more games that aren't Indie announced for next year. Infamous is not a system seller and neither is KZ. Those both even with 70 million consoles out there sell around 2.5 million. Sony NEEDS an Uncharted game or Gran Turismo to launch within the next year to even compete on the game front.


You do make a good point in of itself.  But just speaking for myself, inFamous is my system seller.  It's doesnt mean I'll buy a PS4 as soon as inFamous is released.  But what I am saying is that currently inFamous is the initial reason why I'll buy a PS4 as soon as I'm ready to.



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veritaz on 04 December 2013
Digi30 said:
LivingMetal said:
jlmurph2 said:
Seems like those supply issues are really getting to them, 700k in all of EU isnt what anyone predicted. And only 300k for Black Friday is gonna get demolished by the Xbox supply.


Yes, it's oh-so horrible!  We have to despair! The end is near!

Meanwhile back in reality...

Iknow it's still early, but so much is pointing towards the progressing success of the PS4.

Now if they only had more games that aren't Indie announced for next year. Infamous is not a system seller and neither is KZ. Those both even with 70 million consoles out there sell around 2.5 million. Sony NEEDS an Uncharted game or Gran Turismo to launch within the next year to even compete on the game front.


They do have an Uncharted.



jlmurph2 on 04 December 2013
veritaz said:
Digi30 said:
LivingMetal said:
jlmurph2 said:
Seems like those supply issues are really getting to them, 700k in all of EU isnt what anyone predicted. And only 300k for Black Friday is gonna get demolished by the Xbox supply.


Yes, it's oh-so horrible!  We have to despair! The end is near!

Meanwhile back in reality...

Iknow it's still early, but so much is pointing towards the progressing success of the PS4.

Now if they only had more games that aren't Indie announced for next year. Infamous is not a system seller and neither is KZ. Those both even with 70 million consoles out there sell around 2.5 million. Sony NEEDS an Uncharted game or Gran Turismo to launch within the next year to even compete on the game front.


They do have an Uncharted.


Not officially next year yet is what he meant.



veritaz on 04 December 2013
jlmurph2 said:
veritaz said:
Digi30 said:
LivingMetal said:
jlmurph2 said:
Seems like those supply issues are really getting to them, 700k in all of EU isnt what anyone predicted. And only 300k for Black Friday is gonna get demolished by the Xbox supply.


Yes, it's oh-so horrible!  We have to despair! The end is near!

Meanwhile back in reality...

Iknow it's still early, but so much is pointing towards the progressing success of the PS4.

Now if they only had more games that aren't Indie announced for next year. Infamous is not a system seller and neither is KZ. Those both even with 70 million consoles out there sell around 2.5 million. Sony NEEDS an Uncharted game or Gran Turismo to launch within the next year to even compete on the game front.


They do have an Uncharted.


Not officially next year yet is what he meant.

It will probably release next year. That's a 3 year gap in between 3 and the next one, compared to 2 years for uncharted 2 and 3. That sounds about right.



Torillian on 04 December 2013
cmay227 said:
Torillian said:


I'm glad you did that math, now I did some of my own and I'll tell you that the original 13 countries that Xbox One and PS4 are launching in account for 1,029,294,316 customers.  Therefore one console sold 1.2 million to 1 billion customers while the other sold 2.1 million to 1.25 billion customers.  Now you can start to see how just going by the number of regions as a straight ratio is completely meaningless.  One has a ratio of about 1.2 per thousands possible customers (Xbone) while the other has a ratio of about 1.68 per thousand possible customers (PS4).  This isn't a partisan thing, it's just a math thing.  

So your comparing PS4's almost 1 month sales total to Xbox one's first 48hrs?

You're correct, I did not factor in time since I was solely trying to show you that launching in a third of the regions is not the same as launching to a third of the customer base which is the actual important quality not how many randomly sized geographical regions each console launches in.  I'm not trying to take away credit from XBone, I'm trying to show you that your math and reasoning in this specific instance sucks.  Taking time into the play would obviously then change things, but it was not important for what I was trying to argue.  



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MARCUSDJACKSON on 04 December 2013

thake it to the bank. 



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chiaoyiwang on 05 December 2013

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Kane1389 on 05 December 2013
LivingMetal said:
cmay227 said:
ICStats said:
cmay227 said:
riecsou said:
cmay227 said:
 

SO 2.1 in 32 is better then 1.7 /1.9 in 13? Please explain. If i sell 50 apples to people in 32 states and my competitor sells 40 apples in 13 states. He is doing better than me. Plain and simple. I will still sleep fine tonight if sony sells 50 million overnight or if MS sells 50 million overnight. but to give praise to one for doing 1 million in 2 countries and then when MS does 1.2 in 13 countries say, yea but...it took 13 countries, sony did it in 2 is laughable. same logic appliesto this. It took sony 32 to hit 2 million when MS has almost got 2 million in only 13. Their will be no way of knowing who is doing better overall til the countries released in are equal. and yes everyone knows sony will dominate in japan.

So where do you get that MS sold 1.7/1.9 ? Are you saying that MS sold 0.6/0.8 Millions Xbox One on it's second week?

Honestly have no idea, but do you think theirs no way they could have shifted atleast another 600,000 in the 11 days after launch day? reports are leaning towards they did world wide. so it's all speculation right now. I still think 1.2 in 13 is better then 2.1 in 32, people can spin it however they want, but to down play what MS did in 13. compared to 32. is pretty good in a little over a 1/3 of territories sony released in. People bagged on MS for scaling back their launch to 13 and yet sony got no crap over saying were launching in 32 yet only launched in 2. I have both systems and enjoy both. just hate the blind devotion and hate spewing going on.

Sorry but saying 1/3 of territories, as if all territories have equal weight is nonsense spin.

Those extra countries amount to a little over 250 million cosumers.


And yes, they are all gamers who can afford a current gen console at launch.   :::sacrasm:::


USA+UK alone are bigger markets then the other 30 countires combined, and I believe Sony is leading in both of them



ICStats on 08 December 2013
cmay227 said:
Xenostar said:
cmay227 said:
Torillian said:
cmay227 said:
ICStats said:

Sorry but saying 1/3 of territories, as if all territories have equal weight is nonsense spin.

Those extra countries amount to a little over 250 million cosumers.


I'm glad you did that math, now I did some of my own and I'll tell you that the original 13 countries that Xbox One and PS4 are launching in account for 1,029,294,316 customers.  Therefore one console sold 1.2 million to 1 billion customers while the other sold 2.1 million to 1.25 billion customers.  Now you can start to see how just going by the number of regions as a straight ratio is completely meaningless.  One has a ratio of about 1.2 per thousands possible customers (Xbone) while the other has a ratio of about 1.68 per thousand possible customers (PS4).  This isn't a partisan thing, it's just a math thing.  

So your comparing PS4's almost 1 month sales total to Xbox one's first 48hrs?


2 weeks and 2 days is no where near a month, exagerations from all sides in here tho. 

Nevermine was thinking Nov 5. It was the 15th. my bad their. but none the less as you stated 2 weeks to days to 2 days. It really dosn't matter though. Ms will get no respect on this site for anything they do.  Sony gets a pass and thats fine, I'm enjoying both, just wish everyone else could enjoy both a well and give praise when it's warranted. My company that i contract with has amazing thi9ngs for both on the horizon and want as many people as possible to enjoy the fruits of our labor. 2014 will be amazing.

Who's giving a pass to Sony?  We're just saying that PS4 released to 25% bigger market, not 200% bigger market, as was implied when looking just at the number of territories.  And that's even being generous, since we're ignoring the wealth factor in each territory.

You're trying to spin the figures in MS favor every chance you get.  Since this is a stats site, I don't think you will get a free pass to do that!



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