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cmay227 said:
xmositox said:

SO 2.1 in 32 is better then 1.7 /1.9 in 13? Please explain. If i sell 50 apples to people in 32 states and my competitor sells 40 apples in 13 states. He is doing better than me. Plain and simple. I will still sleep fine tonight if sony sells 50 million overnight or if MS sells 50 million overnight. but to give praise to one for doing 1 million in 2 countries and then when MS does 1.2 in 13 countries say, yea but...it took 13 countries, sony did it in 2 is laughable. same logic appliesto this. It took sony 32 to hit 2 million when MS has almost got 2 million in only 13. Their will be no way of knowing who is doing better overall til the countries released in are equal. and yes everyone knows sony will dominate in japan.


You shouldn't need this explained, dude.  Different states have different numbers of actual people in them so they aren't equivalent.  If you had 32 rhode Islands and your opponent had 13 Californias then no him selling 1.7 to your 2.1 isn't all that impressive.  You have to look at total populations of people that these countries have and then compare.  You can't just equate the buying power of the United States to that of Spain, that's silly.  Look at total populations and markets that these two are selling to and you'll find that the ratio is not the same as 21 to 13, not by a long shot.  



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Torillian said:
cmay227 said:
xmositox said:

SO 2.1 in 32 is better then 1.7 /1.9 in 13? Please explain. If i sell 50 apples to people in 32 states and my competitor sells 40 apples in 13 states. He is doing better than me. Plain and simple. I will still sleep fine tonight if sony sells 50 million overnight or if MS sells 50 million overnight. but to give praise to one for doing 1 million in 2 countries and then when MS does 1.2 in 13 countries say, yea but...it took 13 countries, sony did it in 2 is laughable. same logic appliesto this. It took sony 32 to hit 2 million when MS has almost got 2 million in only 13. Their will be no way of knowing who is doing better overall til the countries released in are equal. and yes everyone knows sony will dominate in japan.


You shouldn't need this explained, dude.  Different states have different numbers of actual people in them so they aren't equivalent.  If you had 32 rhode Islands and your opponent had 13 Californias then no him selling 1.7 to your 2.1 isn't all that impressive.  You have to look at total populations of people that these countries have and then compare.  You can't just equate the buying power of the United States to that of Spain, that's silly.  Look at total populations and markets that these two are selling to and you'll find that the ratio is not the same as 21 to 13, not by a long shot.  

Take away sonys extra 19 countries they launched in and whats the number sold change too? You think it's still more then MS?



cmay227 said:

Take away sonys extra 19 countries they launched in and whats the number sold change too? You think it's still more then MS?


If you took away Sony's extra 19 countries; they would have 19 extra countries worth of stock for the remaining countries.  Which would still make it more than MS, yes.



Kresnik said:
cmay227 said:

Take away sonys extra 19 countries they launched in and whats the number sold change too? You think it's still more then MS?


If you took away Sony's extra 19 countries; they would have 19 extra countries worth of stock for the remaining countries.  Which would still make it more than MS, yes.

Exactly, and you have to take into account is MS dont launch there for another 6-12 months, then they will be effectively behind and probably lose those countries to Sony. So it's a negative for MS either way.

In terms of this infostat thing, I read today in an article that Sony has shipped 60% of its inventory to Gamestop for USA launches etc, and they stated that over time this would reduce to 30%. So i suspect if that poll of 3000 or 5000 or whatever is split between companies, its pointless and if it wasnt just soley based on gamespot its pointless. Though dont get me wrong I do think the XBOXone sold more just because Sony sold out and their next batch isnt due for another week or so in large numbers.



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cmay227 said:

SO 2.1 in 32 is better then 1.7 /1.9 in 13? Please explain. If i sell 50 apples to people in 32 states and my competitor sells 40 apples in 13 states. He is doing better than me. Plain and simple. I will still sleep fine tonight if sony sells 50 million overnight or if MS sells 50 million overnight. but to give praise to one for doing 1 million in 2 countries and then when MS does 1.2 in 13 countries say, yea but...it took 13 countries, sony did it in 2 is laughable. same logic appliesto this. It took sony 32 to hit 2 million when MS has almost got 2 million in only 13. Their will be no way of knowing who is doing better overall til the countries released in are equal. and yes everyone knows sony will dominate in japan.

So where do you get that MS sold 1.7/1.9 ? Are you saying that MS sold 0.6/0.8 Millions Xbox One on it's second week?



riecsou said:
cmay227 said:
 

SO 2.1 in 32 is better then 1.7 /1.9 in 13? Please explain. If i sell 50 apples to people in 32 states and my competitor sells 40 apples in 13 states. He is doing better than me. Plain and simple. I will still sleep fine tonight if sony sells 50 million overnight or if MS sells 50 million overnight. but to give praise to one for doing 1 million in 2 countries and then when MS does 1.2 in 13 countries say, yea but...it took 13 countries, sony did it in 2 is laughable. same logic appliesto this. It took sony 32 to hit 2 million when MS has almost got 2 million in only 13. Their will be no way of knowing who is doing better overall til the countries released in are equal. and yes everyone knows sony will dominate in japan.

So where do you get that MS sold 1.7/1.9 ? Are you saying that MS sold 0.6/0.8 Millions Xbox One on it's second week?

Honestly have no idea, but do you think theirs no way they could have shifted atleast another 600,000 in the 11 days after launch day? reports are leaning towards they did world wide. so it's all speculation right now. I still think 1.2 in 13 is better then 2.1 in 32, people can spin it however they want, but to down play what MS did in 13. compared to 32. is pretty good in a little over a 1/3 of territories sony released in. People bagged on MS for scaling back their launch to 13 and yet sony got no crap over saying were launching in 32 yet only launched in 2. I have both systems and enjoy both. just hate the blind devotion and hate spewing going on.



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cmay227 said:
riecsou said:
cmay227 said:
 

SO 2.1 in 32 is better then 1.7 /1.9 in 13? Please explain. If i sell 50 apples to people in 32 states and my competitor sells 40 apples in 13 states. He is doing better than me. Plain and simple. I will still sleep fine tonight if sony sells 50 million overnight or if MS sells 50 million overnight. but to give praise to one for doing 1 million in 2 countries and then when MS does 1.2 in 13 countries say, yea but...it took 13 countries, sony did it in 2 is laughable. same logic appliesto this. It took sony 32 to hit 2 million when MS has almost got 2 million in only 13. Their will be no way of knowing who is doing better overall til the countries released in are equal. and yes everyone knows sony will dominate in japan.

So where do you get that MS sold 1.7/1.9 ? Are you saying that MS sold 0.6/0.8 Millions Xbox One on it's second week?

Honestly have no idea, but do you think theirs no way they could have shifted atleast another 600,000 in the 11 days after launch day? reports are leaning towards they did world wide. so it's all speculation right now. I still think 1.2 in 13 is better then 2.1 in 32, people can spin it however they want, but to down play what MS did in 13. compared to 32. is pretty good in a little over a 1/3 of territories sony released in. People bagged on MS for scaling back their launch to 13 and yet sony got no crap over saying were launching in 32 yet only launched in 2. I have both systems and enjoy both. just hate the blind devotion and hate spewing going on.

Sorry but saying 1/3 of territories, as if all territories have equal weight is nonsense spin.



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cmay227 said:
riecsou said:
cmay227 said:
 

SO 2.1 in 32 is better then 1.7 /1.9 in 13? Please explain. If i sell 50 apples to people in 32 states and my competitor sells 40 apples in 13 states. He is doing better than me. Plain and simple. I will still sleep fine tonight if sony sells 50 million overnight or if MS sells 50 million overnight. but to give praise to one for doing 1 million in 2 countries and then when MS does 1.2 in 13 countries say, yea but...it took 13 countries, sony did it in 2 is laughable. same logic appliesto this. It took sony 32 to hit 2 million when MS has almost got 2 million in only 13. Their will be no way of knowing who is doing better overall til the countries released in are equal. and yes everyone knows sony will dominate in japan.

So where do you get that MS sold 1.7/1.9 ? Are you saying that MS sold 0.6/0.8 Millions Xbox One on it's second week?

Honestly have no idea, but do you think theirs no way they could have shifted atleast another 600,000 in the 11 days after launch day? reports are leaning towards they did world wide. so it's all speculation right now. I still think 1.2 in 13 is better then 2.1 in 32, people can spin it however they want, but to down play what MS did in 13. compared to 32. is pretty good in a little over a 1/3 of territories sony released in. People bagged on MS for scaling back their launch to 13 and yet sony got no crap over saying were launching in 32 yet only launched in 2. I have both systems and enjoy both. just hate the blind devotion and hate spewing going on.


You truly need to wait until MS launches in as many countries as Sony to realize what is going on...  please do yourself a favor and stop mentioning the number of countries in context with sales... aside from the USA and a few european countries, every other one doesn'teven amount to a significant number, which you clearly fail to understand.