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Forums - Nintendo - I'm a Nintendo fan and I just accepted that Wii U is N64 2.

 

Have you accepted ?

Yes =( 145 53.11%
 
No =( 41 15.02%
 
Ain't nobody got time for this 85 31.14%
 
Total:271

I think that the real Zelda U would change the things quite a bit, but it is probably a late 2015 release.



My grammar errors are justified by the fact that I am a brazilian living in Brazil. I am also very stupid.

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In terms of sales, yeah. Wii U will probably end up lopsided with most of the sales coming from NA, while EU & Japan sales combined make up around 1/3 of total sales. (~20m N64s in NA, with ~6m N64s in EU and Japan each)

Software-wise? Sure, in a broad sense Wii U is like N64 in that N64 had little 3rd party to speak of. However, Nintendo's software output on the N64 was some of the most inspired and iconic in video game history. With Nintendo stuck firmly in their traditional ways lately, I don't see much of that kind of software coming to the Wii U any time soon.



Shadow1980 said:
FrancisNobleman said:

Not Gamecube 2, because GC was the most "normal" console by Nintendo. Quite comparable to other "classic" as in "dead boring same shit as always" consoles. N64  2, because like the N64, the Wii U is not quite in the same performance ballpark as the competitors. N64 was kind of half a gen ahead, Wii U is half a gen behind.

Both consoles came out with an interesting and different approach to what you have in your hands that was never used before as a main input for gameplay mechanics. 

N64 sold about 33 million ? And Wii U is set to sell the same ammount.

Both consoles had horrendous 3rd party support, which forced Nintendo to pump out collaborations with studios and push its own games to the platforms.

N64 was home to the first true FPS on consoles and a true 3D platformer done right.

Wii U will be home to something Nintendo will come up, that neither Sony or Microsoft can match with their tacked in tablet integration and Vita laggy stream.

 

With that said, if you are an hardcore occasional gamer, just a Wii U is gonna be fine for you. If you are an hardcore addicted son of a bitch without a life, you gonna need one more console, or PC to fullfil your gaming needs, because Wii U is just another N64.

 

The sooner you accept it, the faster you will reach inner peace, and enjoy the ride.

N64 "only half a gen behind"? The N64 was the most powerful fifth-gen system, at least on paper. It had a 64-bit processor clocked at 93.75 MHz while the PS1's CPU was 32-bit and ran at significantly slower 28.63 MHz. The N64 also had more memory, with 4 MB of RAM (expandable to 8 MB with the Expansion Pak) compared to 2 MB of RAM and 1 MB of VRAM for the PS1. The N64's GPU was also at least as good if not better than the PS1's (textures look better on the N64).

Also, Nintendo has ushered in a lot of firsts when it comes to controller design: the D-pad (NES), shoulder buttons (SNES), the diamond-shaped arrangement of face buttons (SNES again), analog sticks (N64), and accelerometers (Wii). That Nintendo is doing something revolutionary with their controller via the Wii U gamepad's touch screen (which has far more utilitarian value than motion controls) isn't something that can be compared directly to just the N64. Nintendo just likes doing new things with their controllers.

Finally, third-party support has been lacking in general for Nintendo since the fifth generation. They lost a lot of it with the N64 because they decided to stick with cartridges (many devs wanted CDs because they had more space for fancy pre-rendered FMV movies and because they were cheaper to manufacture), they couldn't regain it with the GameCube because of the PS2's utter dominance and perhaps also because of format issues (the GC used a proprietary miniDVD variant), and third parties didn't do much with the Wii because it wasn't as powerful as the 360 and PS3, a problem the Wii U faces in the eighth generation. The Wii U does get third party games just like its parent, grandparent, and great-grandparent had, but it's not getting the third-party games it needs. There's a big difference between what the Wii U is getting and what, say, the 360 got in its first year on the market, something that, among other factors, was crucial in the latter expanding MS's market share.

That being said, I do think the Wii U will end up at around N64-level sales. It will likely have middling sales in Europe and Japan, but will have a decent performance in America where Nintendo's home systems perform the strongest.

Bolded: The N64 is infamous for it's LACK of textures more than anything.



Panicnausia said:
curl-6 said:
Soundwave said:

 

To be honest it looks more and more like Wii was just kind of like a break out motion game fad for Nintendo, there's a pretty clear trend in their console business otherwise ...

 

 

Wii U simply may be the continuation of what's been happening to Nintendo's console business for a long time now. 

5-6 years isn't a fad, it's a normal console lifespan.

No it was a fad, the wii had mostly shovelware. Sales started tanking in 2010.....The wii is an anomoly, that chart shows it plain as day.

Wow, are you freakin serious? The Wii had a TON of great and revolutionary games that brought in people of all ages. What does the shovelware matter as long as it has good games to go with it? PS2 also had a ton of shovelware.

Talk about being in denial..



toastboy44562 said:
I don't think it'll sell as well as Nsixtyfo'


Oh, we know about that.

You made that perfectly clear with the first thread....and then the next...and the next.....and the next



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It's getting pretty depressing to read all the Nintendo hate here, and all the appraisal the PS4 and Xbone get with these garbage games.. I REALLY gotta think about bailing from this site, I'm finding more and more that my gaming tastes simply don't mesh with the vast majority here.



I really don´t know what to say about the comparison. I enjoyed both N64 and Gamecube, and I´m enjoying the WiiU

Gaming in my country is too expensive to keep on track with more than one console, so this generation I´m sticking with 3ds, WiiU and PC, for different reasons: 3ds - for playing while commuting or during work hour breaks; WiiU - for playing with friends and family and alone; PC - for playing AAA titles I can´t get on my WiiU. More than enough for the next 3, 4 years.

WiiU owners should rest assured that great games are coming and even if the console doesn´t get good sales, there will be enough games to keep us entertained for a loooong time. Nintendo never drop support for its home consoles and this won´t be the case again



Metallicube said:
Panicnausia said:

No it was a fad, the wii had mostly shovelware. Sales started tanking in 2010.....The wii is an anomoly, that chart shows it plain as day.

Wow, are you freakin serious? The Wii had a TON of great and revolutionary games that brought in people of all ages. What does the shovelware matter as long as it has good games to go with it? PS2 also had a ton of shovelware.

Talk about being in denial..

It also had more shovelware then any consoel ever.....the 2 are not mutually exclusive.



RavenXtra said:
Software-wise? Sure, in a broad sense Wii U is like N64 in that N64 had little 3rd party to speak of. However, Nintendo's software output on the N64 was some of the most inspired and iconic in video game history. With Nintendo stuck firmly in their traditional ways lately, I don't see much of that kind of software coming to the Wii U any time soon.


Good ideas are coming, like ZombiU extensive use of the gamepad, Wonderful 101 intense gameplay and Murphy´s supporting role on Rayman Legends.

The problem is that videogames audiences today are not so open minded to new ideas as they were on the 16 and 32-bit era. It´s all about blood, gore, shooting and cinematic M content. Consumers today just want more of the same.  Less thinking, more shooting.



Panicnausia said:
Metallicube said:
Panicnausia said:

No it was a fad, the wii had mostly shovelware. Sales started tanking in 2010.....The wii is an anomoly, that chart shows it plain as day.

Wow, are you freakin serious? The Wii had a TON of great and revolutionary games that brought in people of all ages. What does the shovelware matter as long as it has good games to go with it? PS2 also had a ton of shovelware.

Talk about being in denial..

It also had more shovelware then any consoel ever.....the 2 are not mutually exclusive.

I would bet PS2 at least gets very close to that, if not surpasses it.

And again, WHO THE HELL CARES? Just ignore the shovelware and play the freakin goods ones! I never ever got the logic of dissing a console because of its bad games, WHEN IT HAS PLENTY OF GOOD ONES.

The endless creative ways you "hardcore" come up with to undermine the Wii never ceases to boggle the mind..