johnlucas said:

So "don't move console while disc is playing", huh?

THIS is the low standard we gameplayers have accepted from a product???
THIS is what we accept when we spend multiple hundreds of dollars (which most of us find hard to come by) on a product???

I can't say the full word I want to say on here so I'll just abbreviate it by saying...
THAT'S B.S.!!!

Any domestic product has to account for accidents & general human error from the user side.
Your products are supposed to be tough enough to hold up in common mishaps.

It's so easy for a console to get knocked over or knocked off a table, entertainment center, stand or whatever.
The console shouldn't go kaput at the slightest mishap.

My Wii for instance.
I took it to a relative's house & we were playing Mario Party 7 from the Gamecube on it.
We played it using my wired Gamecube controllers.
Suddenly me or somebody else yanked on the cord too hard or something & the Wii fell to the carpeted floor with the game disc in the midst of play.
Fell about 3 feet down.

NOT ONLY was the system undamaged but NOTHING AT ALL HAPPENED to the game which was still in operation after I picked the Wii up off the floor.
It didn't show any sign of glitch or damage during play. It didn't show any scratched surfaces on the disc AFTER play.
It was just fine. The console was just fine. The game disc was just fine.
We resumed playing where we left off before the system dropped to the floor.

Game disc spinning in system WAS MOVED—accidentally & violently—but it all still worked without a trace of a hitch.

The fact that people accept this crap as normal is EXACTLY why I support Nintendo so strongly.
Craftsmanship Matters. And I don't want the Norm to be Bad Craftsmanship.
I don't want Overpriced Crap to be The Norm. And I fight it with every fiber in my being.

Not only does the system not work but it further adds insult to injury by damaging my game discs on top of that?!?!?!

Stop accepting junk products, gamers!!
Don't let this become The Norm!!

Quality or No Sale.
Stick to your guns.
John Lucas

Sounds like its eating the disc XD.

Did you know that the same exact thing happened to my PS3 and it's working fine?

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN.

You are thinking about the 360. There is no reason for the console to not be moved while it is spinning. PS3 have been able to do that without sending the drive out of alignment since day one. The 360 is the only console I have ever heard of with that issue. Should not carry over to the One as it uses similar technology to the PS3/PS4.

No, it's not acceptable at $350 either.
Shame on Nintendo for that mess.

I know these are manmade things & human error will always factor into these designs.
But that's what testing is for to severely reduce or eliminate any malfunctions that resulted from these oversights.

It's not acceptable at $350 & it "DANG" sure ain't acceptable at $500.
We shouldn't expect launch consoles to be flawed by default.
We should expect consoles to work no matter WHEN they're produced.

I bought my Wii in December of 2006. My Wii worked fine throughout the 7th generation.
A Wii from the launch window that actually works. That's not too much to expect really.
John Lucas

Here's another thing about these disc drives.

I was reading reports of the grinding disc drives of the XBox One in various forums around the internet.
I saw one report on Slumz.Boxden.com (BX).
Xbox One video emerges of system rejecting disc and making a grinding noise

One of the posters on that topic named 'persuazion' made this comment in reponse to another poster named 'MrIToldYouSo':

So "don't move console while disc is playing", huh?

THIS is the low standard we gameplayers have accepted from a product???
THIS is what we accept when we spend multiple hundreds of dollars (which most of us find hard to come by) on a product???

I can't say the full word I want to say on here so I'll just abbreviate it by saying...
THAT'S B.S.!!!

Any domestic product has to account for accidents & general human error from the user side.
Your products are supposed to be tough enough to hold up in common mishaps.

It's so easy for a console to get knocked over or knocked off a table, entertainment center, stand or whatever.
The console shouldn't go kaput at the slightest mishap.

My Wii for instance.
I took it to a relative's house & we were playing Mario Party 7 from the Gamecube on it.
We played it using my wired Gamecube controllers.
Suddenly me or somebody else yanked on the cord too hard or something & the Wii fell to the carpeted floor with the game disc in the midst of play.
Fell about 3 feet down.

NOT ONLY was the system undamaged but NOTHING AT ALL HAPPENED to the game which was still in operation after I picked the Wii up off the floor.
It didn't show any sign of glitch or damage during play. It didn't show any scratched surfaces on the disc AFTER play.
It was just fine. The console was just fine. The game disc was just fine.
We resumed playing where we left off before the system dropped to the floor.

Game disc spinning in system WAS MOVED—accidentally & violently—but it all still worked without a trace of a hitch.

The fact that people accept this crap as normal is EXACTLY why I support Nintendo so strongly.
Craftsmanship Matters. And I don't want the Norm to be Bad Craftsmanship.
I don't want Overpriced Crap to be The Norm. And I fight it with every fiber in my being.

Not only does the system not work but it further adds insult to injury by damaging my game discs on top of that?!?!?!

Stop accepting junk products, gamers!!
Don't let this become The Norm!!

Quality or No Sale.
Stick to your guns.
John Lucas