I would be more than happy to if you gave me something that was worth that back.

Dude, Nintendo own 85% of the market in the early 90's, and I'm not bragging about their success, I was explaining why it could be bad for a company to fully dominated a market. Nintendo was brutal how to control the market and made it impossible for other electronic companies to reach Nintendo success level. Only one that came fully close was Sega. 

Thanks to Nintendo's formal President, Hiroshi Yamauchi, (god bless his soul), he was part of the reason why the Playstation became what it is today. I want all three companies (Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft) and the industry as a whole to do well, none of this one domination childish bullsh*t.

I never said that Sonydomination gens were bad... in fact, that statement is false from the source. It's just that your view of Nintendo is wrong IMO, straight from 2007-8...

$50/60 a month isn't a whole lot in retrospect, but can we honestly say we WANT to pay this charge when we already give money to the Cable companies for this basic service? That is the real issue at hand. MS WAS the only one charging for what Nintendo,Sony, and PC gave for free.

So naturally, it was a bad thing. They even hiked up the price which is ludicrous. PS+ I think is still more appealing as a service (even tho now its required for online gaming) because its similar to discount/rewards memberships at retail stores. You reap savings, free games, early access to special deals, and privileges that are actual additions (Cloud Saves) as opposed to locking off things that were built in by design in the console which u already paid for (Online, Cross chat).

There was very little about XBLive that really made it a "service", PSN+ is. And the rumor that Live somehow ran better than PSN is a joke, concocted by those trying to validate that extra tax. It doesn't. The servers run on a case by case basis dependent upon the game and how demanding it is on BOTH consoles. FACT: COD ran like shit on my roommate's 360 even when hardwired in, on PS3 wifi it ran like a dream. We would go to his aunt's place.....total opposite. And after you eliminate that what was live ever giving you?Cross game chat? Ok, well PS4 has that too now

Thats the thing isnt it? Why do you think the service is worth it when the competitiors offer the same service for free?

I can't see how it would be ideal to have one dominating companies as opposed to 2-3 competing companies. New and differing ideas, products, methods, etc. are always good for any market. I personally found the 7th generation to have the greatest library of all generations, even despite the rising development costs. This is something I must attest to the pressures on Sony as a result of more serious competition. One could make the argument that they preferred the games from the PS2 and PS1 generation, but that would simply be opinion.

The argument that certain competitor's products/policies are bad for the market doesn't make much sense in this context. The success or failure of a product/policy relies solely on the market's satisfaction with that product/policy. For example, If the market was receptive to Microsoft's price for online gaming, then that's not bad for the industry; it's good. The fact that people would voluntarily give up money for a service by Microsoft means that they believe that the benefits of the service outweighs it's cost; they feel it's a mutually beneficial exchange. You could say paying for XBL isn't beneficial, but that would be subjective as well - and would not be in line with what the market feels.

This applies to any other offering from Microsoft. If the market enjoys it, then there is no basis to say that it's bad for the market. The key lies in the fact that it's a voluntary exchange and that people are choosing to spending their money in a way they see is beneficial. If Microsoft somehow forced/tricked people to buying their products, then that would be bad for the market.

But most importantly, these forums will be extremely boring. When the the PS3 was selling only slightly above-average numbers, the forums were already heavily Sony. Can you imagine if the Xbone was no competition? Then there would literally be one or two Xbox fans on here. Everyone comes to this website for different reasons, but for me, that would be no fun.

noone will dominate by such a wide margin as the ps2 ever again, i believe. the competition is more balanced now.

And that's a good thing.
Competition breeds innovation and generally lower prices. :)
The Playstation 4 might have been twice as expensive for instance if it wasn't for Microsoft and Nintendo's competition.
American's might have needed a 3rd job to buy it. :P

  I say!

I want PS4 to win but not in a range that makes xbox irrelevant.
Competition brings mostly good things.
and...
lets face it, the internet would be a lot more boring without console wars