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JoeTheBro on 26 October 2013

O MY GOSH!

Edge totally stole this article from me.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=169689&page=1



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S.T.A.G.E. on 26 October 2013
zorg1000 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
curl-6 said:
HikenNoAce said:

4- For good reason - the Wii sold fastest to casuals and not gamers. And that is why third party games sold poorly on it. It was a fad that did not last as long as the generation.

Incorrect. 

The Wii lasted 6 years. That is a normal, healthy console lifespan. A fad would have been two or three years.


The Wii's success lasted hyped success lasted four years (2006-2010). Once the Kinect came out the casual hype moved over to MS for two years (2010-2012). 

Id say more like 5 years, I know 2011 wasnt an amazing year for Wii but it sold 11.5m that year compared to 13.8m for 360 and 14.7m for PS3. Far from being dead at that point and selling comparably to the competition.


Nintendo reported their first profit loss the year after the Kinect came out. Its a fact that the casuals had somethng to do with it. We knew it was a downward spiral from that point on. Sometimes I wonder how long the Wii hype would've lasted if the Kinect wasn't such a casual success.



tolu619 on 26 October 2013
Mensrea said:
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Really, the Wii U will blow away the competition this holiday.



I doubt. I always get Nintendo's console before getting any other console, but I'll be surprised if the Wii U isn't the worst selling console this holiday season.



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Play4Fun on 26 October 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:
zorg1000 said:

Id say more like 5 years, I know 2011 wasnt an amazing year for Wii but it sold 11.5m that year compared to 13.8m for 360 and 14.7m for PS3. Far from being dead at that point and selling comparably to the competition.


Nintendo reported their first profit loss the year after the Kinect came out. Its a fact that the casuals had somethng to do with it. We knew it was a downward spiral from that point on. Sometimes I wonder how long the Wii hype would've lasted if the Kinect wasn't such a casual success.

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It's no coincidence that Wii's sales started to falter once Nintendo's software output slowed down and then eventually dwindled.

Don't know why you're trying to push this idea that Kinect took Wii down and that it's the 'casuals' fault (as usual).

And didn't Nintendo cite 3DS' troubles and a strong yen as the main reason for their first profit loss in 3 decades? kinect didn't snatch Wii's customers away en masse, cause Nintendo to make a loss and then, along with those casuals, send Nintendo into a downward spiral like you're implying.



zorg1000 on 26 October 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:
zorg1000 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
curl-6 said:
HikenNoAce said:

4- For good reason - the Wii sold fastest to casuals and not gamers. And that is why third party games sold poorly on it. It was a fad that did not last as long as the generation.

Incorrect. 

The Wii lasted 6 years. That is a normal, healthy console lifespan. A fad would have been two or three years.


The Wii's success lasted hyped success lasted four years (2006-2010). Once the Kinect came out the casual hype moved over to MS for two years (2010-2012). 

Id say more like 5 years, I know 2011 wasnt an amazing year for Wii but it sold 11.5m that year compared to 13.8m for 360 and 14.7m for PS3. Far from being dead at that point and selling comparably to the competition.


Nintendo reported their first profit loss the year after the Kinect came out. Its a fact that the casuals had somethng to do with it. We knew it was a downward spiral from that point on. Sometimes I wonder how long the Wii hype would've lasted if the Kinect wasn't such a casual success.

Well Wii sales were already declining well before Kinect released, it peaked in 2008 at around 25m, 2009-21m, 2010-17m, 2011-11m. I believe Kinect was a factor but u make it seem like it was the sole reason Wii sales started to decline. Wii shared a very similar sales curve to Nintendos 2 previous consoles, N64/GC/Wii all peaked in the second full year on market then gradually declined for a few years.

Also im not sure what Nintendo profits have to do with anything. They posted a loss because of weak 3DS sales and early price cut, not because Kinect stole Wiis market.



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coolguy on 27 October 2013

I can see people buying wiiu when there is no ps4 or xbone1 in stores



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curl-6 on 27 October 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:
curl-6 said:
HikenNoAce said:

4- For good reason - the Wii sold fastest to casuals and not gamers. And that is why third party games sold poorly on it. It was a fad that did not last as long as the generation.

Incorrect. 

The Wii lasted 6 years. That is a normal, healthy console lifespan. A fad would have been two or three years.


The Wii's success lasted hyped success lasted four years (2006-2010). Once the Kinect came out the casual hype moved over to MS for two years (2010-2012). 

LOL, so the  16 million Wiis sold since 2010 magically don't count?



S.T.A.G.E. on 27 October 2013
curl-6 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
curl-6 said:
HikenNoAce said:

4- For good reason - the Wii sold fastest to casuals and not gamers. And that is why third party games sold poorly on it. It was a fad that did not last as long as the generation.

Incorrect. 

The Wii lasted 6 years. That is a normal, healthy console lifespan. A fad would have been two or three years.


The Wii's success lasted hyped success lasted four years (2006-2010). Once the Kinect came out the casual hype moved over to MS for two years (2010-2012). 

LOL, so the  16 million Wiis sold since 2010 magically don't count?


What the hell are you talking about? 2010 was the last year the Wii recorded a profit, of course that wouldn't be what I am talking about.



S.T.A.G.E. on 27 October 2013
zorg1000 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
zorg1000 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
curl-6 said:
HikenNoAce said:

4- For good reason - the Wii sold fastest to casuals and not gamers. And that is why third party games sold poorly on it. It was a fad that did not last as long as the generation.

Incorrect. 

The Wii lasted 6 years. That is a normal, healthy console lifespan. A fad would have been two or three years.


The Wii's success lasted hyped success lasted four years (2006-2010). Once the Kinect came out the casual hype moved over to MS for two years (2010-2012). 

Id say more like 5 years, I know 2011 wasnt an amazing year for Wii but it sold 11.5m that year compared to 13.8m for 360 and 14.7m for PS3. Far from being dead at that point and selling comparably to the competition.


Nintendo reported their first profit loss the year after the Kinect came out. Its a fact that the casuals had somethng to do with it. We knew it was a downward spiral from that point on. Sometimes I wonder how long the Wii hype would've lasted if the Kinect wasn't such a casual success.

Well Wii sales were already declining well before Kinect released, it peaked in 2008 at around 25m, 2009-21m, 2010-17m, 2011-11m. I believe Kinect was a factor but u make it seem like it was the sole reason Wii sales started to decline. Wii shared a very similar sales curve to Nintendos 2 previous consoles, N64/GC/Wii all peaked in the second full year on market then gradually declined for a few years.

Also im not sure what Nintendo profits have to do with anything. They posted a loss because of weak 3DS sales and early price cut, not because Kinect stole Wiis market.


Thats all plausible information as to why it happened, but competition at some point plays into why sales slow down. The Wii was the most affordable console of them all, so for the sales to slow down on the Wii even below the competition makes no sense to me. I say competition (mainly in the west) with rival tech caused the casual draw to move away.



zorg1000 on 27 October 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:
zorg1000 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
zorg1000 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
curl-6 said:
HikenNoAce said:

4- For good reason - the Wii sold fastest to casuals and not gamers. And that is why third party games sold poorly on it. It was a fad that did not last as long as the generation.

Incorrect. 

The Wii lasted 6 years. That is a normal, healthy console lifespan. A fad would have been two or three years.


The Wii's success lasted hyped success lasted four years (2006-2010). Once the Kinect came out the casual hype moved over to MS for two years (2010-2012). 

Id say more like 5 years, I know 2011 wasnt an amazing year for Wii but it sold 11.5m that year compared to 13.8m for 360 and 14.7m for PS3. Far from being dead at that point and selling comparably to the competition.


Nintendo reported their first profit loss the year after the Kinect came out. Its a fact that the casuals had somethng to do with it. We knew it was a downward spiral from that point on. Sometimes I wonder how long the Wii hype would've lasted if the Kinect wasn't such a casual success.

Well Wii sales were already declining well before Kinect released, it peaked in 2008 at around 25m, 2009-21m, 2010-17m, 2011-11m. I believe Kinect was a factor but u make it seem like it was the sole reason Wii sales started to decline. Wii shared a very similar sales curve to Nintendos 2 previous consoles, N64/GC/Wii all peaked in the second full year on market then gradually declined for a few years.

Also im not sure what Nintendo profits have to do with anything. They posted a loss because of weak 3DS sales and early price cut, not because Kinect stole Wiis market.


Thats all plausible information as to why it happened, but competition at some point plays into why sales slow down. The Wii was the most affordable console of them all, so for the sales to slow down on the Wii even below the competition makes no sense to me. I say competition (mainly in the west) with rival tech caused the casual draw to move away.

competition is of course a factor but there were also many other things at play



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