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Mensrea said:
Guys, actually listen to the video he brought up some really good points.

He didn't just say sell it, he said "sell it to disney because they know marketing, and they could put in a nintendo part of disneyworld, etc." I'm not opposed to this. If nintendo could function as they do now, with Disney's marketing behind it, good things would happen.

He didn't just say "they need to make new shit" he just said it would be good to have new devs inside nintendo forming a new generation of nintendo games. He himself mentioned playing many of recent Nintendo games.


The title of the thread is misleading, and there was nothing to freak out about here. I actually agree with him.

He said "do some new shit" at like the 9:40 some mark.



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EricFabian said:
deskpro2k3 said:
I think Nintendo should stop forcing Mario, and Zelda franchise on everyone so much, and make a new super hero. Thats all I think they need to do.

Nintendo already did. Wonder Red.


Got to factor in that their audience is growing with the times.



I think the thread title is a little inflammatory. I watched the entire interview, expecting to rip Jaffe apart, but his words were less incendiary than I imagined. They're still mighty stupid, from a commercial and creative standpoint, but I don't think they were meant to cause trouble.



RolStoppable said:
outlawauron said:
RolStoppable said:
I could hardly understand anything he said.

Racist.

Looks like someone is still grumpy because the Saints blew the game against New England.

...and that someone would be me. That totally ruined my week in the prediction league. How could they lose the game after stopping the Patriots on downs and intercepting Brady all within the last three minutes of the game? Not even Romo would manage to do that. Not even freakin' Romo!

Yes, it was a pretty awful way to lose the game. I think the final was the result of some piss poor offensive playcalling at the end of the game.



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deskpro2k3 said:
EricFabian said:
deskpro2k3 said:
I think Nintendo should stop forcing Mario, and Zelda franchise on everyone so much, and make a new super hero. Thats all I think they need to do.

Nintendo already did. Wonder Red.


Got to factor in that their audience is growing with the times.


I know, but W101 is a good game. Completly hardcore. It doesn't have any blood, but...



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I think David Jaffe is a one hit wonder who gets too much attention. Since the first God of War, over 8 1/2 years ago, he has done nothing noteworthy and he thinks God of War IV should change its formula to be more like Zelda, no, just no.

Although Nintendo should make some new IPs and tackle other genres, how about a hack 'n slash to rival GoW/Ryse, a TPS to rival Gears/UC or a racing sim to rival GT/Forza? That would make Nintendo much more appealing to mature gamers not interested in child friendly games.



DucksUnlimited said:
green_sky said:

Complains about games taking the story telling route instead of focusing on game play. Picks on the company that does so.

I haven't watched the video. So i am saying this based on the thread title and other responses.

Edit: Watched the segment. What i said above. 

Are you sure? Because he didn't pick on anything. He was asked a question about Nintendo. And his criticism had nothing to do with Nintendo focusing on gameplay. He said getting some new blood to revitalize their first party games would be a good way to improve Wii U's situation.

Maybe it was not that bad but the point is that he wants them to make new stuff but he then cites two games that he is looking forward to. Both are iterative instead of "new" stuff. I guess the marketing point was somewhat right. All companies can strive to do a good job there. One just needs to look at Audi and Apple. They sell their products on the strengths of marketing more than anything else.  

I am sure how good Disney has been in sustaining some of their older franchises and mascots. They were down in the drain and putting B tier stuff before they acquired Pixar. Sure Pirates of Carribean rakes in a billion dollar each time but how many more of those can they make. 

I guess there is something to learn from everyone. 



Right after he made this rant, he went off to play Final Fantasy XIII, GTAV, and Madden 25..



RolStoppable said:

No doubt about that. If I remember correctly, Jaffe is the guy who advised gamers to not buy his latest Twisted Metal game, because it wasn't worth its price.

Actually he advised against it because of all the complaints with the online and then pushed all the blame onto Sony for not getting it resolved.  Six months later, after Jaffe left, the online is finally fixed, but unfortunately there's barely a community.  The people that still play Twisted Metal, if you look at the weekly records, you'll see some of these people have played online five or six days of game time out of the week.

Would have been nice if the online actually worked for Twisted Metal because instead of people hearing about how bad the online was, they'd hear how awesome the game was and it would have got more sales rather than lost hundreds of thousands of sales.   The series would have probably been revived and got more of a budget rather than fade into obscurity which is what I guarantee is happening to it now.



deskpro2k3 said:
EricFabian said:
deskpro2k3 said:
I think Nintendo should stop forcing Mario, and Zelda franchise on everyone so much, and make a new super hero. Thats all I think they need to do.

Nintendo already did. Wonder Red.


Got to factor in that their audience is growing with the times.

Nintendo's audience is 8-18 year olds.  8-18 year olds will always be 8-18 years old.  once you turn 19 you can either still like Nintendo games, cause they won't change, or else you can move onto something else.

Why should Nintendo change their games?  You don't see saturday morning cartoons changing to try and keep their fans when they get older.  No they just stay the same and get the new kids that are growing up.  They don't care that some 13 year old doesn't like their tv show anymore.  100 million new kids just turned 3 and may potentially watch their show.

You think the 15+ million that buy pokemon each generation are the same who played Pokemon Red/Blue?  Hell no, its comprised of a shit ton of new 10 year olds buying the game.