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selnor1983 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Kasz216 said:
By "blow up" i'm guessing he means the competitive scene.

The problem with that is that... I think most of the competitive e sports fighting fans are on the Playstation due to the better D-pad. (Not all pro's tend to get official/prosticks.)


This might cause them to pick up an Xbox One if it ends up  being any good.


And the Dpad on Xbox One is now great. Yay. Dont you just love hands on impressions.


I didnt need hands on impressions to see that. I still prefer the Playstations because teh D-Pad cross is broken and has a slight concave slant in in the middle so it makes sliding your hand for commands in Street Fighter easier. The true fighting fans will barely be using the arcade stick though because it will most likely allow for more button commands per second.



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S.T.A.G.E. said:
selnor1983 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Kasz216 said:
By "blow up" i'm guessing he means the competitive scene.

The problem with that is that... I think most of the competitive e sports fighting fans are on the Playstation due to the better D-pad. (Not all pro's tend to get official/prosticks.)


This might cause them to pick up an Xbox One if it ends up  being any good.


And the Dpad on Xbox One is now great. Yay. Dont you just love hands on impressions.


I didnt need hands on impressions to see that. I still prefer the Playstations because teh D-Pad cross is broken and has a slight concave slant in in the middle so it makes sliding your hand for commands in Street Fighter easier. The true fighting fans will barely be using that controller though. 

I prefer Nintendos to Sony. So if Xbox One feels like that, BONUS for me.



selnor1983 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
selnor1983 said:
Panama said:
I can't be the only one that laughed when he said it's the best next gen fighter announced right? It's the ONLY next gen fighter announced. Any others that I can think of that are on next gen consoles are also on PS3/360.

Then Microsoft have the timing right. KI is getting great previews and hands on. Plus it has little competition. Id say Microsoft timed the reboot spot on. Alot of competitive fighting fans will check it out. It could well blow up and become a phenomenon.


Killer Instinct has a high barrier of entry. Newbs will become overwhelmed when the arcade style fighting fans get the game. They lied when they said the game has a low barrier of entry because in this title that mostly depends on whom you're playing against. Its harder this time to do combo breakers. I dont find this version of KI to be half as stylish but I think I can have some sort of fun with it.

The hands on impressions ive read do differ from what you say. 

I love the videos of old KI fans playing this new one. They are so happy at the end, like someone just gave them all gold bars.


I've been playing fighting games since pretty much I just about six years old. I watched people play the original KI and KI has NEVER had a low barrier of entry on a competitive level. This game will demand more time than both Street Fighter and Tekken to master. Combo breakers are harder to predict now as well. For fighting fans this is good, but for newbs..lol...not so good. Wasn't it you who said that you haven't purchased a fighting game since Soul Calibur 2? Good luck bro...good luck. Thats all I have to say.



S.T.A.G.E. said:
selnor1983 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
selnor1983 said:
Panama said:
I can't be the only one that laughed when he said it's the best next gen fighter announced right? It's the ONLY next gen fighter announced. Any others that I can think of that are on next gen consoles are also on PS3/360.

Then Microsoft have the timing right. KI is getting great previews and hands on. Plus it has little competition. Id say Microsoft timed the reboot spot on. Alot of competitive fighting fans will check it out. It could well blow up and become a phenomenon.


Killer Instinct has a high barrier of entry. Newbs will become overwhelmed when the arcade style fighting fans get the game. They lied when they said the game has a low barrier of entry because in this title that mostly depends on whom you're playing against. Its harder this time to do combo breakers. I dont find this version of KI to be half as stylish but I think I can have some sort of fun with it.

The hands on impressions ive read do differ from what you say. 

I love the videos of old KI fans playing this new one. They are so happy at the end, like someone just gave them all gold bars.


I've been playing fighting games since pretty much I just about six years old. I watched people play the original KI and KI has NEVER had a low barrier of entry on a competitive level. This game will demand more time than both Street Fighter and Tekken to master. Combo breakers are harder to predict now as well. For fighting fans this is good, but for newbs..lol...not so good. Wasn't it you who said that you haven't purchased a fighting game since Soul Calibur 2? Good luck bro...good luck. Thats all I have to say.


I still play KI GOLD every now and then. I might dust off my fighters I have to brush up. LOL.



selnor1983 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
selnor1983 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Kasz216 said:
By "blow up" i'm guessing he means the competitive scene.

The problem with that is that... I think most of the competitive e sports fighting fans are on the Playstation due to the better D-pad. (Not all pro's tend to get official/prosticks.)


This might cause them to pick up an Xbox One if it ends up  being any good.


And the Dpad on Xbox One is now great. Yay. Dont you just love hands on impressions.


I didnt need hands on impressions to see that. I still prefer the Playstations because teh D-Pad cross is broken and has a slight concave slant in in the middle so it makes sliding your hand for commands in Street Fighter easier. The true fighting fans will barely be using that controller though. 

I prefer Nintendos to Sony. So if Xbox One feels like that, BONUS for me.


OOps I made a mistake. I didnt mean I like Sonys controller better, I meant the Arcade stick will get more use by the experienced fighters and people who use other controllers other than the stick will be at a two button disadvantage. The PS controllers have always been better for sliding movies like forward, up *command* or others. Luckily they didnt change the D-Pad since its ace. Most wont buy the stick though because they might not be willing to drop $100 on the game. Which Nintendo controller because I used to get blisters on the SNES if thats the one you're referring to.



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No reason to look down on a good fighting game. They add tons of value, especially if you can get it for as little as $5 to start out. If you don't like it, don't buy more. If you do, buy the $40 package and get the whole thing(including the original).



selnor1983 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

The hands on impressions ive read do differ from what you say. 

I love the videos of old KI fans playing this new one. They are so happy at the end, like someone just gave them all gold bars.


I've been playing fighting games since pretty much I just about six years old. I watched people play the original KI and KI has NEVER had a low barrier of entry on a competitive level. This game will demand more time than both Street Fighter and Tekken to master. Combo breakers are harder to predict now as well. For fighting fans this is good, but for newbs..lol...not so good. Wasn't it you who said that you haven't purchased a fighting game since Soul Calibur 2? Good luck bro...good luck. Thats all I have to say.


I still play KI GOLD every now and then. I might dust off my fighters I have to brush up. LOL.

No offense but the N64 controller is probably the worst controller for this type of game. I would go back to the SNES version or Arcade version on a PC at best with a pad or something. If you want to thats cool though, just giving out a friendly opinion for optimum experience. The reason I say combo breakers will be harder this time because you get punished for missing a combo breaker and theres an internal clock that penalizes you from trying for three seconds. If you hit it you better hit it right. If you dont your opponent gets a larger window to continue their combos. This is bad for inexperiened gamers they are trying to reach out to. They say its easier to implement, but even if it is you better hit. 



S.T.A.G.E. said:
Kasz216 said:
By "blow up" i'm guessing he means the competitive scene.

The problem with that is that... I think most of the competitive e sports fighting fans are on the Playstation due to the better D-pad. (Not all pro's tend to get official/prosticks.)


This might cause them to pick up an Xbox One if it ends up  being any good.

I mean it could be... I'm just talking anectdotally, but the fighter obssessed people i knew were in love with the original Xbox, moved to PS3 and now pretty much are as big a "faboys" as you can get.  Taunting the hell out of the various Xbox One news.



Kasz216 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Kasz216 said:
By "blow up" i'm guessing he means the competitive scene.

The problem with that is that... I think most of the competitive e sports fighting fans are on the Playstation due to the better D-pad. (Not all pro's tend to get official/prosticks.)


This might cause them to pick up an Xbox One if it ends up  being any good.

I mean it could be... I'm just talking anectdotally, but the fighter obssessed people i knew were in love with the original Xbox, moved to PS3 and now pretty much are as big a "faboys" as you can get.  Taunting the hell out of the various Xbox One news.


True. If you want to play fighting games Playstation is still king being that it houses some of the best players but this game is going to definitely open some doors. Microsoft just gave hardcore fighting fanatics a great reason to switch but if this game ends up being more hype than its worth most wont budge, I am sure.



landguy1 said:
No reason to look down on a good fighting game. They add tons of value, especially if you can get it for as little as $5 to start out. If you don't like it, don't buy more. If you do, buy the $40 package and get the whole thing(including the original).

Here's the thing though. The free version has one character. ONE CHARACTER. Every other character is $5 a pop. As far as I know, and please feel free to correct me, there isn't a way to try any new characters, a la League of legends weekly rotation of characters or something similar. I could buy a character that looks good, hate him and piss away $5. Rinse and repeat.

Now, you can avoid this by buying the bundle which comes with *drum roll* ...8 characters. And 2 of them are to be added later. That is a horrendous amount of fighters when other game like smash bros, tekken and Mortal kombat have 30+ to start off. Some people argue "well this system is perfect for those who are knew to fighting and can find large rosters overwhelming or who don't want to spend $60 on a game." Well, even if the amount of fighters is overwhelming, after purchasing the game, you lose nothing by simply trying different characters at your own pace. As for the $60, rent the game. Try out the campaign, time trial, survival, practice mode, etc. Want the competitive feel of it? Try online if it isn't blocked by an Online Pass or invite a few friends over to try it out.

When you say "the whole thing", in a genre of gaming where character variety is key, 8 characters is just too low. I still love the feel and look of the game. If i ever purchase an xbox one AND a retail version of the game came out, with all characters comes out, i would be all over it. Until then, I am very skeptical of how it will perform.



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