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FW sales US+Europe Combined (Retail)

Over 300k 42 16.34%
 
250k-300k 27 10.51%
 
200k-300k 42 16.34%
 
150k-200k 80 31.13%
 
Under 150k 66 25.68%
 
Total:257
fatslob-:O on 08 October 2013
zorg1000 said:
This is directed towards Fatslob, u claim the Zelda series is declining but that is simply not true. U base this off of Skyward Sword selling much less than Twilight Princess but if u look at the history of the series, the second mainline release on a perticular console always sells much less than the first.

NES
Zelda-6.51m
Zelda 2-4.38m
Zelda 2 sold 56% of Zelda 1

N64
Ocarina-7.60m
Majora-3.36m
Majora sold 47% of Ocarina

Wii
Twilight Princess-6.83m
Skyward Sword-3.69m
SS sold 54% of TP

So Skyward Sword hasnt shown that the series Is declining as the second release on a console sells roughly half of the first. Also u laugh at the people who think Wind Waker HD can sell over 700k, lets look at the sales of remakes compared to original releases.


Ocarina of Time-7.60m
Remake-3.14m
The remake sold 41% of the original

Link to the Past-4.61m
Remake-2.70m
The remake sold 58% of the original

Links Awakening-3.83m
Remake-2.22m
The remake sold 58% of the original

Zelda remakes typically sell 40-60% of the original, if Wind Waker to follow this pattern then it should sell 1.84-2.76m. In purely retail figures no it will not likely reach those numbers but with digital and bundled sales then it has a chance.

Once again we`ll see who`s right. Just because the remakes sold good doesn`t mean that this one will do well since it`s on a really bad platform. 



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retroking1981 on 08 October 2013

80k US
30k EU

People are seriously over estimating this title, it's a remake of a niche title in a declining franchise.

Worrying thing is Nintendos own expectations.



tbone51 on 08 October 2013
KylieDog said:
tbone51 said:

Why does Zelda have to muster up 10mil? Also Genres are different. Shooters are so big especially since gen 7 started. You cant expect LoZ to be as big. Zelda's performance has always did good with maybe SS the only one that should of did at least 5mil. Before you say im wrong look at fighters. SSB is one of the most popular franchises with its fourth debut coming out 2014/2015. SSBB is the only fighter ever to sell over 10mil and thats a bigger accomplishment than wat COD cuz of Genres. Now looking back at it Holy S***! Fighters are dead? After SSBB the next highest last gen is Tekken: Dark Resurrection which barely sold more than 3mil? WTF?


The flaw in this argument is Smash is not a fighter.  Is an arena brawler, just with a 2D plane.



why do you always do this? Its a fighter. Even if its a different kind no matter wat its a fighter. You said arena brawler which would fall into the Fighting Genre right? If you say no then wat Genre does it fall into? The racing one lol



fatslob-:O on 08 October 2013
tbone51 said:
KylieDog said:
tbone51 said:

Why does Zelda have to muster up 10mil? Also Genres are different. Shooters are so big especially since gen 7 started. You cant expect LoZ to be as big. Zelda's performance has always did good with maybe SS the only one that should of did at least 5mil. Before you say im wrong look at fighters. SSB is one of the most popular franchises with its fourth debut coming out 2014/2015. SSBB is the only fighter ever to sell over 10mil and thats a bigger accomplishment than wat COD cuz of Genres. Now looking back at it Holy S***! Fighters are dead? After SSBB the next highest last gen is Tekken: Dark Resurrection which barely sold more than 3mil? WTF?


The flaw in this argument is Smash is not a fighter.  Is an arena brawler, just with a 2D plane.



why do you always do this? Its a fighter. Even if its a different kind no matter wat its a fighter. You said arena brawler which would fall into the Fighting Genre right? If you say no then wat Genre does it fall into? The racing one lol

Just ignore him, he's another one of those anti casual gamers and plus he wouldn't know any better either. 



zorg1000 on 08 October 2013
fatslob-:O said:
zorg1000 said:
This is directed towards Fatslob, u claim the Zelda series is declining but that is simply not true. U base this off of Skyward Sword selling much less than Twilight Princess but if u look at the history of the series, the second mainline release on a perticular console always sells much less than the first.

NES
Zelda-6.51m
Zelda 2-4.38m
Zelda 2 sold 56% of Zelda 1

N64
Ocarina-7.60m
Majora-3.36m
Majora sold 47% of Ocarina

Wii
Twilight Princess-6.83m
Skyward Sword-3.69m
SS sold 54% of TP

So Skyward Sword hasnt shown that the series Is declining as the second release on a console sells roughly half of the first. Also u laugh at the people who think Wind Waker HD can sell over 700k, lets look at the sales of remakes compared to original releases.


Ocarina of Time-7.60m
Remake-3.14m
The remake sold 41% of the original

Link to the Past-4.61m
Remake-2.70m
The remake sold 58% of the original

Links Awakening-3.83m
Remake-2.22m
The remake sold 58% of the original

Zelda remakes typically sell 40-60% of the original, if Wind Waker to follow this pattern then it should sell 1.84-2.76m. In purely retail figures no it will not likely reach those numbers but with digital and bundled sales then it has a chance.

Once again we`ll see who`s right. Just because the remakes sold good doesn`t mean that this one will do well since it`s on a really bad platform. 

Do u admit now that the series as a whole isnt declining tho?

And ur right it certainly isnt proof that WWHD will sell that well but it also shows there are legitimate reasons why people think it will sell over 700k.



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

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fatslob-:O on 08 October 2013
zorg1000 said:
fatslob-:O said:
zorg1000 said:
This is directed towards Fatslob, u claim the Zelda series is declining but that is simply not true. U base this off of Skyward Sword selling much less than Twilight Princess but if u look at the history of the series, the second mainline release on a perticular console always sells much less than the first.

NES
Zelda-6.51m
Zelda 2-4.38m
Zelda 2 sold 56% of Zelda 1

N64
Ocarina-7.60m
Majora-3.36m
Majora sold 47% of Ocarina

Wii
Twilight Princess-6.83m
Skyward Sword-3.69m
SS sold 54% of TP

So Skyward Sword hasnt shown that the series Is declining as the second release on a console sells roughly half of the first. Also u laugh at the people who think Wind Waker HD can sell over 700k, lets look at the sales of remakes compared to original releases.


Ocarina of Time-7.60m
Remake-3.14m
The remake sold 41% of the original

Link to the Past-4.61m
Remake-2.70m
The remake sold 58% of the original

Links Awakening-3.83m
Remake-2.22m
The remake sold 58% of the original

Zelda remakes typically sell 40-60% of the original, if Wind Waker to follow this pattern then it should sell 1.84-2.76m. In purely retail figures no it will not likely reach those numbers but with digital and bundled sales then it has a chance.

Once again we`ll see who`s right. Just because the remakes sold good doesn`t mean that this one will do well since it`s on a really bad platform. 

Do u admit now that the series as a whole isnt declining tho?

And ur right it certainly isnt proof that WWHD will sell that well but it also shows there are legitimate reasons why people think it will sell over 700k.

Considering the fact that wind waker did much less than ocarina of time on the N64 while also having less attach ratio shows that the decline is pretty marginal so this only proves that nintendo needs to make less toon zeldas and zeldas that have less puzzles too in order to expand. Nintendo needs to muster up some courage to make money or else they'll keep getting squashed in this economy and that means making what the audience wants not what the developers want. 



Jodman1992 on 08 October 2013

100k US 80k EU.

It's done around 30k in the UK alone so not sure where the tiny EU predictions are coming from.



zorg1000 on 08 October 2013
fatslob-:O said:
zorg1000 said:
fatslob-:O said:
zorg1000 said:
This is directed towards Fatslob, u claim the Zelda series is declining but that is simply not true. U base this off of Skyward Sword selling much less than Twilight Princess but if u look at the history of the series, the second mainline release on a perticular console always sells much less than the first.

NES
Zelda-6.51m
Zelda 2-4.38m
Zelda 2 sold 56% of Zelda 1

N64
Ocarina-7.60m
Majora-3.36m
Majora sold 47% of Ocarina

Wii
Twilight Princess-6.83m
Skyward Sword-3.69m
SS sold 54% of TP

So Skyward Sword hasnt shown that the series Is declining as the second release on a console sells roughly half of the first. Also u laugh at the people who think Wind Waker HD can sell over 700k, lets look at the sales of remakes compared to original releases.


Ocarina of Time-7.60m
Remake-3.14m
The remake sold 41% of the original

Link to the Past-4.61m
Remake-2.70m
The remake sold 58% of the original

Links Awakening-3.83m
Remake-2.22m
The remake sold 58% of the original

Zelda remakes typically sell 40-60% of the original, if Wind Waker to follow this pattern then it should sell 1.84-2.76m. In purely retail figures no it will not likely reach those numbers but with digital and bundled sales then it has a chance.

Once again we`ll see who`s right. Just because the remakes sold good doesn`t mean that this one will do well since it`s on a really bad platform. 

Do u admit now that the series as a whole isnt declining tho?

And ur right it certainly isnt proof that WWHD will sell that well but it also shows there are legitimate reasons why people think it will sell over 700k.

Considering the fact that wind waker did much less than ocarina of time on the N64 while also having less attach ratio shows that the decline is pretty marginal so this only proves that nintendo needs to make less toon zeldas and zeldas that have less puzzles too in order to expand. Nintendo needs to muster up some courage to make money or else they'll keep getting squashed in this economy and that means making what the audience wants not what the developers want. 

There u go and change ur argument again, this seems like an elaborate way of avoiding a direct answer. u went from saying Zelda as a whole is declining to saying realistic/combat Zelda sells better than cartoon/puzzle Zelda.

Also Ocarina of Time and Wind Waker have virtually the same attach ratio. OoT-23% WW-21%



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

DucksUnlimited on 08 October 2013
benji232 said:
DucksUnlimited said:
benji232 said:
fatslob-:O said:
LOL at people thinking I'm trolling. Just you all wait and see how wind waker HD will fair.

Multiple points you've made lead me to believe you're either a troll or you're just plain stupid.

1. You said that pikmin 3 sales were bad (it sold 500k in 2months on a 3.5m userbase)

2.You said that Uncharted is a bigger franchise then zelda (Again, laughable).

3.Saying LOL in most of you're posts makes you look even more like a troll.

Why is that laughable? The combined sales of the 2 Zelda games on Wii were less than the combined sales of Uncharted 2&3, and the Wii has a big install base advantage that was even bigger when those games came out.

Did uncharted 2 OR 3 sell more then Twilight princess? No. 

Now you and him comparing sales of SS is laughable in itself as it required an add-on and was released at the very end of wii's life (When it was mostly dead). So the *bigger install base* excuse is absolutely irrevelant because most people had already moved on to something else then wii.

Underlined: Yes, but they did sell more as a percentage of total install base. Sales were also split among three games on the console, as opposed to only two for Zelda.

Bolded: Like what? The Wii U that didn't come out until the end of the following year? Besides, the Wii was still selling fine in 2011 so calling it dead is silly.



fatslob-:O on 08 October 2013
zorg1000 said:
fatslob-:O said:
zorg1000 said:
fatslob-:O said:
zorg1000 said:
This is directed towards Fatslob, u claim the Zelda series is declining but that is simply not true. U base this off of Skyward Sword selling much less than Twilight Princess but if u look at the history of the series, the second mainline release on a perticular console always sells much less than the first.

NES
Zelda-6.51m
Zelda 2-4.38m
Zelda 2 sold 56% of Zelda 1

N64
Ocarina-7.60m
Majora-3.36m
Majora sold 47% of Ocarina

Wii
Twilight Princess-6.83m
Skyward Sword-3.69m
SS sold 54% of TP

So Skyward Sword hasnt shown that the series Is declining as the second release on a console sells roughly half of the first. Also u laugh at the people who think Wind Waker HD can sell over 700k, lets look at the sales of remakes compared to original releases.


Ocarina of Time-7.60m
Remake-3.14m
The remake sold 41% of the original

Link to the Past-4.61m
Remake-2.70m
The remake sold 58% of the original

Links Awakening-3.83m
Remake-2.22m
The remake sold 58% of the original

Zelda remakes typically sell 40-60% of the original, if Wind Waker to follow this pattern then it should sell 1.84-2.76m. In purely retail figures no it will not likely reach those numbers but with digital and bundled sales then it has a chance.

Once again we`ll see who`s right. Just because the remakes sold good doesn`t mean that this one will do well since it`s on a really bad platform. 

Do u admit now that the series as a whole isnt declining tho?

And ur right it certainly isnt proof that WWHD will sell that well but it also shows there are legitimate reasons why people think it will sell over 700k.

Considering the fact that wind waker did much less than ocarina of time on the N64 while also having less attach ratio shows that the decline is pretty marginal so this only proves that nintendo needs to make less toon zeldas and zeldas that have less puzzles too in order to expand. Nintendo needs to muster up some courage to make money or else they'll keep getting squashed in this economy and that means making what the audience wants not what the developers want. 

There u go and change ur argument again, this seems like an elaborate way of avoiding a direct answer. u went from saying Zelda as a whole is declining to saying realistic/combat Zelda sells better than cartoon/puzzle Zelda.

Also Ocarina of Time and Wind Waker have virtually the same attach ratio. OoT-23% WW-21%

I'm not avoiding to give you a driect answer but if you had read my post you would have noticed "the decline is pretty marginal" so pay attention to subtle answers next time.