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Dr.EisDrachenJaeger said:
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the_dengle said:

First of all, I understand that the comment in the OP comes from someone associated with Nintendo, NOT with Ubisoft. This isn't a threat, it's a warning, and it's a justified one.

Nonetheless, my own comment directed at most of the conversation in this thread is this:

I think people are a little confused about Nintendo's role in selling third-party games on their system. Let me offer an example: suppose you found out that, say, Terminal Reality (makers of such gems as Kinect Star Wars and TWD: Survival Instinct) was making a new IP for PS4 at launch. How likely would you be to buy it versus Knack, Drive Club, Killzone, etc?

This is how many Nintendo gamers feel when a company called "Ubisoft" (gee, I remember that name! They made Far Cry Vengeance, Raving Rabbids, Nitrobike, Red Steel, Just Dance, and Michael Jackson the Experience for the Wii! Those were some quality titles... LOW quality titles) is on the Wii U at launch with some game you've never heard of called "Assassin's Creed"... and also Rabbids Land, ZombiU, ESPN Sports Connection, Marvel Avengers: Battle for Earth, and the yearly Just Dance installment.

Lots of companies treat Nintendo consoles like this. They neglect them for years, then expect to receive a warm reception when they suddenly show up for the party. When Assassin's Creed III was released on Wii U, it wasn't as though the whole user base had been clamoring for it since the series was created; it was more like none of them had ever even heard of it before, or at least hadn't played it and didn't know what to expect from it. It was as though the game had suddenly appeared from the void. Imagine if a game called Killer Habits 5 was suddenly released on PS3/360, made by a company you recognize as a huge producer of shovelware, and you had never heard of this series before. Are you gonna buy it? Hell no. It is the publisher's duty to market its product, to inform the customers and convince them to purchase their game. Activision can't just put Call of Duty on Wii U and expect it to sell an easy 8 million like it does on other consoles. They built up those sales on PS3/360 with years of consistent, annual, high-quality releases and tons and tons of marketing. They do nothing to market COD on Nintendo systems. COD4, the game that really made the series take off, wasn't released on Wii until 2009, two years too late. Modern Warfare 2 Skipped the console entirely.

You see, Ubisoft (and Activision) have achieved their sales by nurturing their releases on Sony and Microsoft platforms. They have established popularity on those platforms through their own hard work. Now they expect that popularity to simply be waiting for them on Nintendo consoles, or worse, they expect Nintendo to go out of their way to establish that popularity for them so they don't have to do any actual work building brand recognition and TRUST with a new group of customers.

Long story short, if Ubisoft wants their games to sell well on Nintendo consoles, they had better give Nintendo console owners a better reason to buy their games than, "or we won't give you any more games." Because at this stage, most Nintendo gamers don't even know what they would be missing. It's Ubisoft's job to TELL them what they'd be missing, and they're not doing that. They actually got it right with Rayman Legends, offering the Challenge App for free for several months. This built goodwill between Ubisoft and Wii U owners and established that brand recognition and trust I mentioned between them. And that's why Legends appears to be selling better (or at least roughly as well) on Wii U than on two platforms with 20 times its install base.

this argument makes no sense as any self respecting gameer has heard of AC and COD, these are multi MILLION selling franchises that get rave reviews on the regular. So unless WII u owners exist in some vacuum where they never heard of AC or COD what you say doesnt make sense. Its BS really my mother knows what COD is and she doesnt play games at all. ANd you are assuming that these Wii U owners are not multiplat owners which judging by the sales of the system im willing to bet that most of them are multiplat owners and they are just choosing to buy the games on systems theyve had for years.

The only thing you can say is these companies need to build an awareness for their multiplat titles on Wii U and thats about it.



Well apparently WiiU sales accounted for 1.6% of the total Blacklist sales in the US:

http://mynintendonews.com/2013/09/13/npd-splinter-cell-blacklist-wii-u-apparently-accounts-for-less-than-2-of-total-sales/

Even for a new console that's pretty dire. I'm not surprised that staff at Ubisoft would be feeling uncomfortable at this point.



WagnerPaiva said:
Simple fact is: Ubisoft will look at the costs of porting their games to WiiU vs. the profit of WiiU sales, if it isn´t profitable, they will do what Bethesda and EA did, same with Actvision.

It's not that simple. Porting is cheap these days, if you have only to reprogram the game, but can keep models, textures, scripts, music and so on. That probably means all simple ports to WiiU are profitable at low sales. That Activision and Ubisoft keep on porting after first games sold low is indicating the same. But that is not all. After all, dedicating resources to porting means, some resources are used. Although they are spent in a profitable way, there might be ways to get more profit out of the same resources. Also at low sales and low profits, the whole thing doesn't matter at all. That's why EA, Bethesda and Rockstar can safely stay away from WiiU.

Ubisoft might decide in the future, that the teams that are curretnly doing the ports to the WiiU could bring in more profit, if they are assigned with different tasks.



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Th3PANO said:

I will have every Ubisoft game for Wii U besides AC, I hate AC, I loved Blacklist, Legends wasn't too bad either and I can't wait for Watch Dogs. Can't do more.

Are you sure, you will have EVERY game?

Sports Connection: http://www.amazon.com/ESPN-Sports-Connection-Nintendo-Wii-U/dp/B00897Z1K0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1380461821&sr=8-1&keywords=sports+connection

Rabbids Land: http://www.amazon.com/Rabbids-Land-Nintendo-Wii-U/dp/B00897Z240/ref=sr_1_7?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1380461849&sr=1-7

Your Shape: http://www.amazon.com/Your-Shape-Fitness-Evolved-Nintendo-u/dp/B0086V5TYC/ref=sr_1_11?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1380461849&sr=1-11

The Smurfs 2: http://www.amazon.com/Smurfs-2-Nintendo-Wii-U/dp/B00CBVHI56/ref=sr_1_12?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1380461849&sr=1-12



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JGarret said:
Nintendo should have started taking big steps towards real self sufficiency a looong time ago.

It´s been clear, for quite some time, that chances are slim a Nintendo home console will ever see again the kind of 3rd party support the NES and SNES had.

What they need is truly being self sufficient, not depend on anyone but themselves to carry the system, while avoiding these huge fucking droughts.They need to have the capacity and manpower to be able to release their games at a much quicker pace while maintaining the quality a lot of people have come to expect from them.

Pretty hard, but they have to do it.


Or actually release a real, full-blown next-gen console, based on the x86 architecture, with 8GB RAM and a good GPU... Crazy, I know...



Wii U is a GCN 2 - I called it months before the release!

My Vita to-buy list: The Walking Dead, Persona 4 Golden, Need for Speed: Most Wanted, TearAway, Ys: Memories of Celceta, Muramasa: The Demon Blade, History: Legends of War, FIFA 13, Final Fantasy HD X, X-2, Worms Revolution Extreme, The Amazing Spiderman, Batman: Arkham Origins Blackgate - too many no-gaemz :/

My consoles: PS2 Slim, PS3 Slim 320 GB, PSV 32 GB, Wii, DSi.

pezus said:

So here we are yet again. The 3rd party that has supported WiiU the most is probably ready to stop porting its games any day now. I'm not even sure if they'd do the Just Dance games on WiiU?

When on which platform they intend to sell the series in the future? I'm sure some years down the line, the Wii-version of the game will start to sell less and less.



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Scisca said:
JGarret said:
Nintendo should have started taking big steps towards real self sufficiency a looong time ago.

It´s been clear, for quite some time, that chances are slim a Nintendo home console will ever see again the kind of 3rd party support the NES and SNES had.

What they need is truly being self sufficient, not depend on anyone but themselves to carry the system, while avoiding these huge fucking droughts.They need to have the capacity and manpower to be able to release their games at a much quicker pace while maintaining the quality a lot of people have come to expect from them.

Pretty hard, but they have to do it.


Or actually release a real, full-blown next-gen console, based on the x86 architecture, with 8GB RAM and a good GPU... Crazy, I know...

yeah like the GameCube, oh wait.



kupomogli said:
RolStoppable said:
You've heard it, everyone. Buy Ubisoft games to show them that halfassed is good enough for you.

I thought Nintendo fans were praising Ubisoft for supporting their console and not half assing their games.  Now that Ubisoft makes a comment about the Wii U and this comes out, Nintendo fans suddently don't care about Ubisoft.

Sony fans all love to generalize from one random poster to a full fanbase. See proof: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5695399

(besides, I think this special random poster never did praise Ubisoft in the past.)



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JGarret said:

What they need is truly being self sufficient, not depend on anyone but themselves to carry the system, while avoiding these huge fucking droughts.They need to have the capacity and manpower to be able to release their games at a much quicker pace while maintaining the quality a lot of people have come to expect from them.

Pretty hard, but they have to do it.


Depending only on first party will probably just get them out of the industry. It's just necessary to tale a look at GTA and CoD numbers and see that people want those games. The success comes with good first party + all third party games. It's a question of mouth-to-mouth. You see your friends talking about the new great 3rd party game and you will want to buy it. People will buy the console with a good 3rd party support first and will let the console without it for another oportunity. And with the money invested in games on the console bought, they will probably forgot about their second option.

Nintendo need to do again what they did with N64, except by the game media (please, they have to use a normal media. Blu-ray). It was powerfull for the time, cheap and still had some 3rd party support (and it would have it all if used CDs). Wii U should be more comparable in power to PS4/One and come with a normal controller, no tablet, no gimmick. It would support Wii Motes of course, but that would be an accessory. Sell it for US$ 400 or a little more with minimal losses (PS4 and One will sell at minimal losses for the price). That would get 3rd parties on it.