Max King of the Wild said:
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it may drop next week (maybe not globally because it will count 1 day of wind waker in japan) but after that it will be up or flat for the rest of the year.
Max King of the Wild said:
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it may drop next week (maybe not globally because it will count 1 day of wind waker in japan) but after that it will be up or flat for the rest of the year.
| the_dengle said:
I don't see what comparing Legends sales to Origins sales accomplishes. It's early yet to compare the two, especially seeing as Origins was released in the middle of November. We'll see how Legends legs out. At this stage, there's nothing to be learned by comparing the two, especially with the platforms and release dates varying so wildly. As for third-party platformers not being viable, I protest. Origins sold over 2 million between all versions. Sonic consistently sells in the millions. Just because Legends didn't sell 15 million in its first-week like GTA doesn't mean it's a failure; it could easily exceed a million sales over time, and who knows what its budget was? I sincerely doubt Ubisoft was expecting 4 million from this one, especially since it was originally planned as a Wii U exclusive. Surely they budgeted accordingly -- if not, they have no one to blame but themselves. The fact is that Legends is selling best on Wii U. That this console with a tiny install base compared to the PS3 and 360 is a better, or at least equal, market for this kind of game. Did I say the Wii U is the most viable platform for platformers? No. But it could be. Your comments about JRPGs on 360 only support my own about the Wii U. You basically say I'm right, because I was, and then compare Blue Dragon to Rayman for absolutely no reason. And then you say third parties supported the 360 because FPS and sports games sold well on it. And I'm saying -- reverse that situation. Rayman and Disney Infinity and Sonic and Lego and Scribblenauts could show that the Wii U can be viable to third parties. And, just like the 360 got FFXIII and Persona 4 Arena and Catherine and Rayman and the X1 is getting FFXV and KH3 even though those kinds of games don't sell as well on Xbox as they do on PS platforms, the Wii U can continue getting games that don't necessarily sell as well there as they do elsewhere. MAYBE. It's early. But Legends is selling best on Wii U, and it IS going to leg out into a million-seller. Don't let the deceptively low first few weeks of sales fool you. Origins did the same thing. |
The point about Origins is that it did not follow any pattern in terms of install base correlating to sales. PS3 sold the most despite the lowest install base, the Wii the least despite it having the largest(of the initial console release). The Vita hit way above its weight considering the install base.
Rayman doesn't need to do 15 million first week, but where is the floor on that? 200k, 100k, 50k, 10k? Origins also sold a substantial amount of its total after it saw deep discounts, which goes back to what I said.
How on earth do my comments about the 360 support your ones on the Wii U? The point about the Blue Dragon comparison is that the genre that wasn't doing so great on the 360 was still puting up better numbers than a game that is supposedly going to bring third parties to the Wii U. All five of those games (if we count sonic racing) combined did less in the first week in the US than Splinter Cell: Double Agent on 360. That isn't even getting into the bigger games like Oblivion, Madden, Call of Duty, and Gears. Note I am talking about US because a lot of old European data is gone. Considering I assume you are mostly referring to western third parties, and the Wii U isn't doing so hot in Europe, it probably doesn't make a huge difference.
Sure the 360 still got a few Japanese games, most likely on the hope that it was the key to break into the American market, but the Wii U also still gets some Western games. In seven years, I'm sure we'll be able to name a few games the Wii U got despite low sales in the respective genre. That doesn't mean third parties will be rushing to put Madden and GTA on Wii U because Rayman did slightly less worse numbers than the PS3/360 versions.
| Blood_Tears said: A few months ago I had no idea that Rayman fans would be so whiny. You lost an exclusive, it happens, get over it. Does it suck for die hard fans? sure. Does it suck financially for Ubi? Nope. They are getting more money now and your still enjoying your game, so give it a rest.. |
it's been more than settled that no one complained about rayman going multiplatform. that raises the question if you're trolling or actually believe those words.
| Zero999 said: it may drop next week (maybe not globally because it will count 1 day of wind waker in japan) but after that it will be up or flat for the rest of the year. |
You cant actually believe this. Sales qont start increasing week after week till mid november
http://m.gamestop.com/Stores/Search/StoreAvailability/111373
Btw... i know you love arguing against facts zero999 but you cant argue the zelda bundle was so limited that it couldnt increase sales becaude if people were really interested they can find one if they want. Every store in my area has them availble including online
Zombi U didn't sell as well as Ubi Soft wanted and Wii U hardware sales were weak for Decmeber 2012, that spooked Ubi Soft, but seriously Rayman isn't making a big difference had it been released in Feburary/March versus August/September.
It's a niche title and even kids don't seem to be interested in playing "cartoony" platfomer/action games (see: Puppeteer bombing, W101 bombing, etc.). Nintendo's established IP can weather the storm because they have long established fanbases to bank on, but everyone else is screwed.
| Max King of the Wild said: http://m.gamestop.com/Stores/Search/StoreAvailability/111373 Btw... i know you love arguing against facts zero999 but you cant argue the zelda bundle was so limited that it couldnt increase sales becaude if people were really interested they can find one if they want. Every store in my area has them availble including online |
So going from sub 9k to 20k (more then double the sales) in TWO days without any marketing is "not increasing sales"? Please think what your typing twice before posting it.
Predictions for LT console sales:
PS4: 120M
XB1: 70M
WiiU: 14M
3DS: 60M
Vita: 13M
| benji232 said: So going from sub 9k to 20k (more then double the sales) in TWO days without any marketing is "not increasing sales"? Please think what your typing twice before posting it. |
Please read the context of the post before typing. Zero999 said wii u didnt increase more because zelda bundle was so limited.
| the_dengle said: The Wii U price drop was global, right? Did it do nothing in Europe or Japan? |
no price cut in japan.
Max King of the Wild said:
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the only week with no actual release that i remember is 12-19 october.