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KylieDog said:
adriane23 said:
KylieDog said:
Demon's Souls isn't a JRPG.


Yes it is.


No, it isn't.  J/W RPGs are not determined where they were made, but the style of the game.  It is modelled on the WRPG game type.

Whoever told you that should be slapped in the throat. If that was the case, then I guess the Penny Arcade RPGs are JRPGs and games like The Granstream Saga and Dark Cloud are WRPGs. And what is the "WRPG game type" exactly?



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adriane23 said:
KylieDog said:
adriane23 said:
KylieDog said:
Demon's Souls isn't a JRPG.


Yes it is.


No, it isn't.  J/W RPGs are not determined where they were made, but the style of the game.  It is modelled on the WRPG game type.

Whoever told you that should be slapped in the throat. If that was the case, then I guess the Penny Arcade RPGs are JRPGs and games like The Granstream Saga and Dark Cloud are WRPGs. And what is the "WRPG game type" exactly?


He's not completely wrong about Demon's Souls, though. The game was something of a spiritual succesor to King's Field, which was very much inspired by WRPGs like Ultima.

Every time someone uses J/WRPG as a genre classifaction tends to cause confusion. :P And it's inheriently flawed, as all JRPGs ever released have been inspired by WRPGs down the line, back to the original Ultima and Wizardry. So, you are right - JRPG should mean "RPG developed in Japan" as opposed to a certain style of game divorced from its WRPG cousins.

Besides, I'm seeing more and more gameplay commanalities between them recently (see: Xenoblade). And I like it.



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Salnax said:
Mario has three games up there. Not bad for a platforming hero.

     Mario RPG and SuperStar Saga are easily in my top 10 RPGs of all time.



                
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UltimateUnknown said:
BasilZero said:
UltimateUnknown said:
BasilZero said:

Still need to play Persona 4.

That's the kind of crime that would get you burned at the stake.


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I COULD play the PS2 version but I wanna play it on the Vita (TV). xD

I think you should play the PS2 version (dirt cheap now) while waiting for the VITA TV. Both versions are awesome and you'll enjoy P4G just as much after playing P4. I played pretty much every iteration of P3 and P4. Original P3, P3:FES, P3P, P4 and P4G (also P4A) and I enjoyed each and every single one of them.

Persona 4 without the Golden content is like...a cake without filling. Don't do it Basil!



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Wright said:
brendude13 said:
Surprised at how low some JRPGs are rated compared to the best games in other genres. I'm started to doubt we'll see any JRPG crack 90 next gen.


You're such a pessimistic boy

Maybe I'm exaggerating a little. Not including handhelds either, as Persona 4 Golden and Fire Emblem have already easily cracked 90.

No console JRPG will score 92 or higher though.



brendude13 said:
UltimateUnknown said:
BasilZero said:
UltimateUnknown said:
BasilZero said:

Still need to play Persona 4.

That's the kind of crime that would get you burned at the stake.


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I COULD play the PS2 version but I wanna play it on the Vita (TV). xD

I think you should play the PS2 version (dirt cheap now) while waiting for the VITA TV. Both versions are awesome and you'll enjoy P4G just as much after playing P4. I played pretty much every iteration of P3 and P4. Original P3, P3:FES, P3P, P4 and P4G (also P4A) and I enjoyed each and every single one of them.

Persona 4 without the Golden content is like...a cake without filling. Don't do it Basil!

Can you battle Margaret or not?

Yeah, there's your filling. And good luck with that.



 

UltimateUnknown said:
brendude13 said:

Persona 4 without the Golden content is like...a cake without filling. Don't do it Basil!

Can you battle Margaret or not?

Yeah, there's your filling. And good luck with that.

That's part of the cake, and it's only available on the 2nd playthrough anyway.



KylieDog said:


WRPG are generally more realistic in design of both worlds and environments, the 'RPG' side of things are very deep routed in character building with a focus on individual stats for characters and usually armours and weapons too.  There tends to be a lot of choice in the story as well as progression of the world also.

JRPGs tend to be very anime or cartoon styled, aside from a  general level up the RPG side of things tends to be very light and while can get new weapons or armours sometimes the focus isn't on individual stats of a character or equipment and offers little to no choice in character build.  The story has little and often zero choice for the player and the world opens up along with story.

Where a game is made doesn't matter.  WRPGs are named so as that style has been championed by western devs and is found mostly in western made RPGs, JRPGs because it is mainly Japan who make that style (especially due to Final Fantasy's popularity boom in the 90s).

What would you call an Australian made RPG?  Using your logic it certainly isn't a WRPG, Australia isn't in the west, it isn't JRPG because it isn't made in Japan either despite being so close.  The real answer is you base it on the actual game, not where it is made.

The problem is that there is so much variability within both Western- and Japanese-developed games that trying to isolate a "style" for each region's RPGs ultimately ignores that variation.  Western franchises like Fable, Diablo, World of Warcraft, or Jade Empire have cartoon-styled visual design, Japanese franchises like Demon's Souls and Monster Hunter focus on character building and armor/weapon customization, some Western franchises have set player characters like Geralt in The Witcher, and some Japanese games feature a lot of dialogue choices like Persona.

The entire RPG genre in general is this massive collection of different types of games, where if you asked ten people what makes an RPG, you'd likely get ten different responses.  Thus, I don't subscribe to the idea that WRPG or JRPG are distinct genres.  To me, when someone says JRPG, the only objective way to use that as a classification is to simply denote the game's region of origin.



Without any Suikoden at all, especially 2 or 3, I don't really have a lot of respect for this list.

At least FF VI is the highest Final Fantasy, though I personally would have it at the top of any RPG list, period. FF VII, though probably the most important RPG ever in terms of the impact it had on the industry, was a step back in almost every way except for graphics.