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kitler53 on 22 September 2013
kowenicki said:

What a shocker. Shameful that Sony has them as second tier.


you'd think such a business minded person as yourself would recognize a good buisiness decion when you see one.  sony is prioritizing its stock to the regions where xbox can actually has a chance to compete.  an early lead in the US and UK (capitalizing on MS's bad pricing decision) could really put MS into an irrelevant position next gen if sony manages to hit critical mass in those regions.

..besides, it's not like xbox is even releasing in japan any time soon.  as it stands ps4 will probably still be out months ahead of xbone in japan.  shame MS can't get their shit together enough to launch their hardware.  ms made such great strides to be almost as relavent as sony this gen and they are just throwing it all away.



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gooch_destroyer on 22 September 2013

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Talal on 22 September 2013
kowenicki said:
kitler53 said:
kowenicki said:

What a shocker. Shameful that Sony has them as second tier.


you'd think such a business minded person as yourself would recognize a good buisiness decion when you see one.  sony is prioritizing its stock to the regions where xbox can actually has a chance to compete.  an early lead in the US and UK (capitalizing on MS's bad pricing decision) could really put MS into an irrelevant position next gen if sony manages to hit critical mass in those regions.

..besides, it's not like xbox is even releasing in japan any time soon.  as it stands ps4 will probably still be out months ahead of xbone in japan.  shame MS can't get their shit together enough to launch their hardware.  ms made such great strides to be almost as relavent as sony this gen and they are just throwing it all away.

They could release in japan with nothing and bank shit loads of cash. That's a good business decision. Who knows what will happen this holiday in Japan.

Obviously he 3DS will render the Vita irrelevant there so Sony only has home consoles to keep the Playstation brand as strong there.  What if somehow the WiiU gets some traction? Sony may regret neglecting and taking for granted one of their second most important market.  Who knows.

To follow your logic, ms shouldn't launch in the UK first and should concentrate on the emerging European markets.


The Xbox doesn't dominate in the UK as much as the PS dominates in Japan. 



DonFerrari on 22 September 2013
kowenicki said:
Talal said:
kowenicki said:
kitler53 said:
kowenicki said:

What a shocker. Shameful that Sony has them as second tier.


you'd think such a business minded person as yourself would recognize a good buisiness decion when you see one.  sony is prioritizing its stock to the regions where xbox can actually has a chance to compete.  an early lead in the US and UK (capitalizing on MS's bad pricing decision) could really put MS into an irrelevant position next gen if sony manages to hit critical mass in those regions.

..besides, it's not like xbox is even releasing in japan any time soon.  as it stands ps4 will probably still be out months ahead of xbone in japan.  shame MS can't get their shit together enough to launch their hardware.  ms made such great strides to be almost as relavent as sony this gen and they are just throwing it all away.

They could release in japan with nothing and bank shit loads of cash. That's a good business decision. Who knows what will happen this holiday in Japan.

Obviously he 3DS will render the Vita irrelevant there so Sony only has home consoles to keep the Playstation brand as strong there.  What if somehow the WiiU gets some traction? Sony may regret neglecting and taking for granted one of their second most important market.  Who knows.

To follow your logic, ms shouldn't launch in the UK first and should concentrate on the emerging European markets.


The Xbox doesn't dominate in the UK as much as the PS dominates in Japan. 

Er....

The 360 is in first place in the UK. The PS3 is in second place in Japan.


Are you acting on purpouse or you disregard Sony with 6x more consoles sold in japan than MS the same as the situation in UK??? Your comments are pretty odd.



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kitler53 on 22 September 2013
kowenicki said:
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They could release in japan with nothing and bank shit loads of cash. That's a good business decision. Who knows what will happen this holiday in Japan.

Obviously he 3DS will render the Vita irrelevant there so Sony only has home consoles to keep the Playstation brand as strong there.  What if somehow the WiiU gets some traction? Sony may regret neglecting and taking for granted one of their second most important market.  Who knows.

To follow your logic, ms shouldn't launch in the UK first and should concentrate on the emerging European markets.


are you even trying?  sony will sell everything they produce regardless.  selling in japan won't net any significant change to their cash flow then selling in the UK/US this year.

..my logic does not at all say ms shouldn't launch in the UK.  it says MS should launch in more than 13 regions, but 13 it is scaled back from 21.  sony is putting MS is on the defensive  against sony in MS's strongest regions by diverting as much stock as can sell to those regions.   and if MS loses their advantage in the US and UK,..  game over xbox.



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betacon on 22 September 2013
kowenicki said:
Talal said:
kowenicki said:
kitler53 said:
kowenicki said:

What a shocker. Shameful that Sony has them as second tier.


you'd think such a business minded person as yourself would recognize a good buisiness decion when you see one.  sony is prioritizing its stock to the regions where xbox can actually has a chance to compete.  an early lead in the US and UK (capitalizing on MS's bad pricing decision) could really put MS into an irrelevant position next gen if sony manages to hit critical mass in those regions.

..besides, it's not like xbox is even releasing in japan any time soon.  as it stands ps4 will probably still be out months ahead of xbone in japan.  shame MS can't get their shit together enough to launch their hardware.  ms made such great strides to be almost as relavent as sony this gen and they are just throwing it all away.

They could release in japan with nothing and bank shit loads of cash. That's a good business decision. Who knows what will happen this holiday in Japan.

Obviously he 3DS will render the Vita irrelevant there so Sony only has home consoles to keep the Playstation brand as strong there.  What if somehow the WiiU gets some traction? Sony may regret neglecting and taking for granted one of their second most important market.  Who knows.

To follow your logic, ms shouldn't launch in the UK first and should concentrate on the emerging European markets.


The Xbox doesn't dominate in the UK as much as the PS dominates in Japan. 

Er....

The 360 is in first place in the UK. The PS3 is in second place in Japan.


Oh so like the wii and 360 in America, you're amazing



S.T.A.G.E. on 22 September 2013
kitler53 said:
kowenicki said:
..

They could release in japan with nothing and bank shit loads of cash. That's a good business decision. Who knows what will happen this holiday in Japan.

Obviously he 3DS will render the Vita irrelevant there so Sony only has home consoles to keep the Playstation brand as strong there.  What if somehow the WiiU gets some traction? Sony may regret neglecting and taking for granted one of their second most important market.  Who knows.

To follow your logic, ms shouldn't launch in the UK first and should concentrate on the emerging European markets.


are you even trying?  sony will sell everything they produce regardless.  selling in japan won't net any significant change to their cash flow then selling in the UK/US this year.

..my logic does not at all say ms shouldn't launch in the UK.  it says MS should launch in more than 13 regions, but 13 it is scaled back from 21.  sony is putting MS is on the defensive  against sony in MS's strongest regions by diverting as much stock as can sell to those regions.   and if MS loses their advantage in the US and UK,..  game over xbox.


Sony is launching in 33 countries, i believe.



Talal on 22 September 2013
kowenicki said:

Er....

The 360 is in first place in the UK. The PS3 is in second place in Japan.

 

Yes, but the competition is mainly between Xbox and PS. If MS neglects the UK there's a pretty likely chance that the PS4 will take off there and be number one. So no MS can't focus on other European markets over the UK. Sony on the other hand can afford to do that with Japan. The likelyhood of the Xbox One selling better than the PS4 in Japan is much lower than the likelyhood of the PS4 selling better than the One in the UK.

 

In the end, even if I don't like the decision of launching later in Japan it is a smart business choice if it means more units in markets where the Xbox sells well.



J_Allard on 22 September 2013

Being in Japan I will assume everyone said the Japanese branded console.



Talal on 22 September 2013
J_Allard said:
Being in Japan I will assume everyone said the Japanese branded console.


Why doesn't the same happen in the US?