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Should they?

Yes! 43 47.25%
 
No 20 21.98%
 
Maybe 11 12.09%
 
Nintendo would be doomed, so yeah! 9 9.89%
 
I'mma go zee da rezults! 8 8.79%
 
Total:91
GamechaserBE said:
It worked for Genesis but not for Saturn and so on...

Those to ain't comparable. Just because they were made by the same company, they are wery different. During the genesis era Sega got that people buy consoles for games. They had forgotten that the gen after. Also, releasing new hardware and peripheral every weekend does not help. 



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It was pretty easy to pump out Genesis games. These days, it takes a lot more resources and time. Even if Nintendo wanted to, I don't think it would be possible.



Nintendo should invest in new studios to make new and unique ip. This is an area that Nintendo Nintendo struggles in.



they do that already. they have always done it. and i dont know what Genesis you had but that system had plenty of 3rd party support



IsawYoshi said:

Back in the day the Sega Genesis and the SNES were the two sides fighting each other. The gen before though, it was pretty one sided. The NES outsold the Sega master system by a whole lot. With that, Nintendo pretty much had a monopoly. And they used it. They stopped quite a few third party devs. and publishers from making games for sega. So how did the Genesis gain ground?

 

Sega made their own games. Sports games, sidescrollers, RPGs, racers, you name it. They didn't have Mario. They made Sonic. They didn't have Final Fantasy. They made phantasy star.

 

What I'm getting at is that Nintendo is (sort of) in the same possition as Sega were. They have barely any third party support. Now with Nintendo's IPs (Mario, Zelda, Pokemon, SSB and so on and so forth) they have a very good start. But they lack diversity. At the start of the gamecube era Nintendo tried it out, saying that Retro should make a football game, an rpg, an metroid game and another game for the western audiences. They put NST on making 1080 and Wave race. But as three of the retro games were canned, Nintendo stopped caring and went back to what they always did. 

 

I think Nintendo should try to fill up their library kinda like Sega did way back in the genesis era. What do you think?


You say they lack diversity, then put in 1st party titles for a fighting game, an rpg, a platformer, and an action/adventure game. I think you need to study what the definition of the word diversity... Oh, and you also forgot Mario Kart (a racing game) Metroid (3rd person shooter drifter more and more to a third person shooter every year) Fire Emblem (SRPG) and Star Fox (which was a flying game but I guess now has turned to more of an action game). Diversity given.



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Well, they're trying a bit with W101 and Bayonetta, by using third-party developers. W101 looks like a bomb but we'll see how Bayonetta 2 performs.

If both of those fail then I think we're going to have to look at the possibility that the current Nintendo fanbase isn't going to care much about games that don't use one of Nintendo's established characters. On the other side of the equation, Sony and Microsoft have so much content, both their own and from third-parties, across so many different genres, that Nintendo isn't going to easily be able to compete in those areas just by creating one or two new franchises. If they made a new FPS, for example, it would still pale in comparison to what the other systems have in that category.

Honestly, Nintendo should probably continue being mostly a Mario/platformer box and just live with the realization that the Wii was an anomaly. If they sell hardware at a profit then there is nothing wrong with being a niche player. The truth is, I think, that Nintendo can either produce low-cost, low-spec hardware OR they can have the same third-party software as Sony and Microsoft. Not both. If they decide to continue down the first path then their fans are just going to have live with it.



I actually disagree.

I definitely think Nintendo should expand, both to help flesh out their release calendar and to bring in fresh minds for the company. But if Nintendo wanted these kinds of games on their system, the sort usually brought to the table by third-parties, they could have them simply by working with those publishers to bring them to the console. Those lines of communication exist, they simply aren't being used.



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bigtakilla said:
IsawYoshi said:

Back in the day the Sega Genesis and the SNES were the two sides fighting each other. The gen before though, it was pretty one sided. The NES outsold the Sega master system by a whole lot. With that, Nintendo pretty much had a monopoly. And they used it. They stopped quite a few third party devs. and publishers from making games for sega. So how did the Genesis gain ground?

 

Sega made their own games. Sports games, sidescrollers, RPGs, racers, you name it. They didn't have Mario. They made Sonic. They didn't have Final Fantasy. They made phantasy star.

 

What I'm getting at is that Nintendo is (sort of) in the same possition as Sega were. They have barely any third party support. Now with Nintendo's IPs (Mario, Zelda, Pokemon, SSB and so on and so forth) they have a very good start. But they lack diversity. At the start of the gamecube era Nintendo tried it out, saying that Retro should make a football game, an rpg, an metroid game and another game for the western audiences. They put NST on making 1080 and Wave race. But as three of the retro games were canned, Nintendo stopped caring and went back to what they always did. 

 

I think Nintendo should try to fill up their library kinda like Sega did way back in the genesis era. What do you think?


You say they lack diversity, then put in 1st party titles for a fighting game, an rpg, a platformer, and an action/adventure game. I think you need to study what the definition of the word diversity... Oh, and you also forgot Mario Kart (a racing game) Metroid (3rd person shooter drifter more and more to a third person shooter every year) Fire Emblem (SRPG) and Star Fox (which was a flying game but I guess now has turned to more of an action game). Diversity given.

I say they lack diverity because they do. You know just as well as I do that most people think of Nintendo as a kids company and a platform for casuals. The reason for that is because all the Nintendo games have a certain playfulness in them. While I love that, after all 95% of all games I own are published by Nintendo,  Nintendo does not have games for the mature audience (while I do not like the term, you know who I'm talking about if I use it).

 

You say that Mario Kart is a racing game, and you kinda hit the bullseye there. Indeed, Mario Kart is a racer, a mighty fine one too, but it once again shows that Nintendo rarely goes outside the fun, happy and jolly style of theirs. There are no real driving sim made by Nintendo. Not many sports games as of late either. Not to mention action adventures like Uncharted. And many others. 

 

Nintendo clearly caters to younger gamers, with a few exceptions, but why can't they try to get more of the older ones onto their consoles as well?

 

PS: Most people do not consider metroid to be a third person shooter. Other M is the only one in the series that actually are a 3rd person shooter. With your cunning knowledge of Nintendos franchises you should know that. 



Sure it would be great if there was a Nintendo console with first-party support AND awesome third-party support. When that's happened, as it did with SNES, it produced arguably the best console ever made. But right now, Nintendo system owners are stuck without some of the major third-party releases. It's unfortunate, but, honestly, I think Nintendo has the better software library even without third-party offerings.

So if you're a Nintendo fan who likes playing the best the industry has to offer, then you're stuck investing in more than one console/portable system. But any fan who wants to play the best games every generation has to do that.



nintendo should put that cash reserve of them at work.
i believe they can come up with quite a few interesting and amazing titles