a 8th gen game with little less poligons/shaders/textures is still a 8th gen game?

I put no because it's too weak, but I don't mean hardware-wise (although that is a factor to a small degree) I mean sales and consumer interest wise. Unless it suddenly springs to Wii-like life for months on ends WiiU has already been written off by 3rd parties and by consumers.

Their development resources are now all focused on MS/Sony systems, PC and 3DS (maybe) and mobile. WiiU and Vita are no longer considered viable platforms for 3rd parties except for maybe niche (Vita) and childrens' (WiiU) titles. At this point not even price cuts or temporary sales increases can save them

This.

We just went through the Wii generation, and people still think install base matters dick to third parties.

E3 2010 and 2011 suggested that Nintendo was working closely with 3rd parties on the 3DS and Wii U respectively, based on statements from 3rd parties. Dev kits for the 3DS were available for well over a year before launch. And what problem exactly?

Thank you, god...someone gets it.

No draw distance, more ram needed to run the game. It goes on and on.

Sources please for the Wii U not the 3DS. I will read them when I get back.

Even Nintendo had trouble selling more hardcore oriented games like Metroid Prime and Sin & Punishment and Xenoblade on the Wii, even with a 100 million userbase. Like Metroid for example saw basically no bump from the GameCube days. NOA just bailed on Last Story and Xenoblade, but thankfully were pressured into at least giving Xenoblade a limited release by angry fans.

Third parties did support the Wii, just with the types of games that were actually selling on the console though -- things like fitness games, party games, dance games, etc.

If Nintendo had an IP like Halo or Uncharted that they made themselves and sold millions and millions of copies, then I think third parties would be more inclined to support Nintendo platforms. It's become a demographic problem as much as a hardware issue.

Sony/MS are simply are much more attractive option for third parties. They know hardcore gamers will be there, because Sony/MS spend virtually all their marketing dollars on that audience and tailor their console designs for that audience first and foremost. Sony or MS would never even consider making a purple console for example. Nintendo makes their consoles for the family audience first and foremost and most of their big IP are family-oriented titles ... that just doesn't speak to the developer of say, Metal Gear Solid or BioShock or Grand Theft Auto.

Mario Kart selling 20 million copies doesn't mean much to them. If it was Metroid or Xenoblade or Bayonetta 2 selling 10 million copies on a Nintendo platform, I tend to think that would draw a lot of third parties though because they would be confident there must be a hardcore audience there.

But if a developer is looking at the Wii/Wii U and seeing that even Nintendo has a hard time selling non-family-oriented brands on the system, what message does that send to say the GTAV designer?

can't you do better than that? the level of delusion from that excuse never goes down.