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Sales?

17 million 32 22.54%
 
18 million 21 14.79%
 
19 million 7 4.93%
 
20-22 million 31 21.83%
 
22 million or more 39 27.46%
 
Other ( post below) 11 7.75%
 
Total:141
HikenNoAce on 14 August 2013
spurgeonryan said:
tbone51 said:
HikenNoAce said:


I will use vgchartz approximation if I have no other choice. In the case of Nintendo's hardware numbers, we have official numbers.



you defeated the whole purpose of your arguement, also there is no official numbers remember, stop changing your answer


They are only smart enough because Neogaf attack free speech. They attack choice. Probably against abortion as well. Members there would us it if it was not blocked out and banned. Just shows how petty and worthless everyone there is. Including the owners. Myspace was once big, it fell. I cannot wait for the day that Neogaf fails.


The reason why vgchartz is banned is because it's not accurate sales numbers. It just is a very vague approximation. And that is fair enough.



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the_dengle on 14 August 2013
HikenNoAce said:


Still waiting on that proof that shows that vgchartz numbers are close to being accurate. How the hell are you even going to prove that?

What's this? LTD shipment totals for the 3DS based on Nintendo's own numbers showing 32.48 million consoles shipped as of the end of this June?

Well, by golly, VGChartz shows 32.14 million 3DS consoles sold as of the end of this June!

Those two numbers sure are pretty "close" with an appropriate difference to account for consoles still on shevles, wouldn't you say? After all, it's impossible to sell more than you've shipped, and it's improbable that the number of consoles currently sitting on shelves is greater than the number shipped during the last quarter (1.39 million).



tbone51 on 14 August 2013
the_dengle said:
HikenNoAce said:


Still waiting on that proof that shows that vgchartz numbers are close to being accurate. How the hell are you even going to prove that?

What's this? LTD shipment totals for the 3DS based on Nintendo's own numbers showing 32.48 million consoles shipped as of the end of this June?

Well, by golly, VGChartz shows 32.14 million 3DS consoles sold as of the end of this June!

Those two numbers sure are pretty "close" with an appropriate difference to account for consoles still on shevles, wouldn't you say? After all, it's impossible to sell more than you've shipped, and it's improbable that the number of consoles currently sitting on shelves is greater than the number shipped during the last quarter (1.39 million).



Thank god!!!! Now we caught the Hiken by the feet! But he'll probably reply back and it'll be HIKEN vs THE WORLD all over again :p

zorg1000 on 14 August 2013
HikenNoAce said:
zorg1000 said:
HikenNoAce said:
zorg1000 said:
RolStoppable said:

I am pretty sure that the users on NeoGAF are smart enough to figure out that Nintendo's shipment numbers for calendar year 2013 are below sellthrough for the same period of time, because Media Create and NPD combined outpace Nintendo's shipment numbers before any other countries are taken into account. Therefore they wouldn't take Nintendo's shipments as the best point of reference to make predictions for the full year. Neither would we on VGC, because it's plain and simple stupid.

But anyway, you've made your choice.

@Nintenpuppies: Let the report button glow.

Nintenpuppies unite!!!! Woof woof


Still waiting on that proof that shows that vgchartz numbers are close to being accurate. How the hell are you even going to prove that?

Lol please just shut up, I am no longer arguing with u, if u dont want to use vgchartz numbers on vgchartz then please for ur sake and everyone else leave this site and join gaf. They are so much smarter than us anyway, u will fit right in.


So no proof of what you're claiming - that vgchartz's sales numbers are close to being accurate?

And I do post on gaf too.


Yup u sure got me stumped alright, all hail Hiken The Great, destroyer of logic and proof. May he rule over Gaf with an iron fist.



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

zorg1000 on 14 August 2013
HikenNoAce said:
zorg1000 said:
HikenNoAce said:
zorg1000 said:
RolStoppable said:

I am pretty sure that the users on NeoGAF are smart enough to figure out that Nintendo's shipment numbers for calendar year 2013 are below sellthrough for the same period of time, because Media Create and NPD combined outpace Nintendo's shipment numbers before any other countries are taken into account. Therefore they wouldn't take Nintendo's shipments as the best point of reference to make predictions for the full year. Neither would we on VGC, because it's plain and simple stupid.

But anyway, you've made your choice.

@Nintenpuppies: Let the report button glow.

Nintenpuppies unite!!!! Woof woof


Still waiting on that proof that shows that vgchartz numbers are close to being accurate. How the hell are you even going to prove that?

Lol please just shut up, I am no longer arguing with u, if u dont want to use vgchartz numbers on vgchartz then please for ur sake and everyone else leave this site and join gaf. They are so much smarter than us anyway, u will fit right in.


So no proof of what you're claiming - that vgchartz's sales numbers are close to being accurate?

And I do post on gaf too.


Yup u sure got me stumped alright, all hail Hiken The Great, destroyer of logic and proof. May he rule over Gaf with an iron fist.



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

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HikenNoAce on 14 August 2013
the_dengle said:
HikenNoAce said:


Still waiting on that proof that shows that vgchartz numbers are close to being accurate. How the hell are you even going to prove that?

What's this? LTD shipment totals for the 3DS based on Nintendo's own numbers showing 32.48 million consoles shipped as of the end of this June?

Well, by golly, VGChartz shows 32.14 million 3DS consoles sold as of the end of this June!

Those two numbers sure are pretty "close" with an appropriate difference to account for consoles still on shevles, wouldn't you say? After all, it's impossible to sell more than you've shipped, and it's improbable that the number of consoles currently sitting on shelves is greater than the number shipped during the last quarter (1.39 million).


VGChartz regularly retrofits numbers to match shipped numbers. Remember the GT5 numbers?

Also, that doesn't show us how accurate the sales numbers are. It just shows us that the vgchartz sales numbers are close to the official shipped numbers. And since we do not know what the actual sales numbers are...



HikenNoAce on 14 August 2013
zorg1000 said:
HikenNoAce said:

So no proof of what you're claiming - that vgchartz's sales numbers are close to being accurate?

And I do post on gaf too.


Yup u sure got me stumped alright, all hail Hiken The Great, destroyer of logic and proof. May he rule over Gaf with an iron fist.


No need to delve into sarcasm just because you can't back what you said...



MDMAlliance on 14 August 2013
HikenNoAce said:
I don't want to go digging on Nintendo's site so:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=73938378&postcount=4


I'll respond to you this once, but this is for everyone else as well: 
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=73938838&postcount=24

AND I'll post a link to the entire thread, because HikenNoAce is obviously cherry picking his information.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=73938378#post73938378

You'll see multiple posts showing how HikenNoAce is wrong.

edit: I'll make regular edits, adding more and more posts showing how wrong he is.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=73940823&postcount=75

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=73942858&postcount=128

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=73949123&postcount=206

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=73950873&postcount=223

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=73952058&postcount=230

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=73957843&postcount=289

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=73983218&postcount=403

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=73983963&postcount=408

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=74008663&postcount=498



the_dengle on 14 August 2013
HikenNoAce said:
the_dengle said:
HikenNoAce said:


Still waiting on that proof that shows that vgchartz numbers are close to being accurate. How the hell are you even going to prove that?

What's this? LTD shipment totals for the 3DS based on Nintendo's own numbers showing 32.48 million consoles shipped as of the end of this June?

Well, by golly, VGChartz shows 32.14 million 3DS consoles sold as of the end of this June!

Those two numbers sure are pretty "close" with an appropriate difference to account for consoles still on shevles, wouldn't you say? After all, it's impossible to sell more than you've shipped, and it's improbable that the number of consoles currently sitting on shelves is greater than the number shipped during the last quarter (1.39 million).


VGChartz regularly retrofits numbers to match shipped numbers. Remember the GT5 numbers?

Also, that doesn't show us how accurate the sales numbers are. It just shows us that the vgchartz sales numbers are close to the official shipped numbers. And since we do not know what the actual sales numbers are...

Of course they do. If they didn't adjust their numbers to account for new information, everything would be total guesswork. The fact that they retroactively change their numbers is what makes them somewhat reliable.

You didn't ask for proof that VGChartz numbers are accurate. You asked for proof that they are CLOSE to accurate. And this proves that. After all, if the 3DS wasn't selling in the first half of this year, why did Nintendo ship more consoles? How have they managed to convince retailers to buy over 32 million consoles if they haven't sold CLOSE to that amount?

Just admit that it has been proven that VGChartz numbers are close to accurate in the matter of LTD 3DS hardware sales. That's a simple thing.



Lonely_Dolphin on 14 August 2013
HikenNoAce said:
zorg1000 said:
HikenNoAce said:
zorg1000 said:
RolStoppable said:

And I do post on gaf too.



That explains why I keep hearing so much bad stuff about the place lolz!