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Machiavellian on 12 August 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Seece said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


Oh, you can do that with the PS Eye. It just depends on whether the devs decide to do it.

Can you, I haven't heard anything about the PSeye, do you have a link for that?

Not that it negates anything, how exactly does PSeye doing that not mean it's of somewhat value for for Kinect? Why you always gotta turn it into a PS4 vs X1 thing stage?


Because I am stating that its not an exclusive selling point if everyone can do it (then again, I might have to take it back since MS bought the exclusivity of DR3 just like the first game).  It's a specific instance but what happens when it comes down to truer exclusivity and multiplatform gaming. Everyone seems to be using some peripheral these days so the gap is getting slimmer and slimmer. The Kinects major selling point is that it could do things the other consoles couldnt by voice command or motion detection.....was it not? 

I would say no one cares if another device can do something if that device is not getting support.  The difference will always be that the PSeye is just another add on while MS has made kinect center to their console experience.  Its the same as Nintendo making the Wiimote central to the Wii.  When developers think about features, they cost them just like anything else.  Costing a feature you know will be used because everyone has the device is totally different when that info is unknown.

I expect to see a lot of little kinect features that probably can be duplcated using the PSeye but not included for the PSeye because its just another add on.  



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Imaginedvl on 12 August 2013
Bristow9091 said:
So... EVERYTHING they announced at the event in May, was a lie?

It seems they've done a 180 on just about everything they said back then, this was the last item that fanboys and haters had as ammunition against the console, and now it's been fixed... yeah.

lol... a "LIE"... Sensationnal :)
So at first you complain about anything they are planning and when they LISTEN to gamers and adjust things, they become "liars"...
You guys are killing me; I mean is there nothing good to talk about in other Sony threads and your precious console instead of spending the majority of your time flamming/bashing into the MS ones?



Seece on 12 August 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Seece said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


Oh, you can do that with the PS Eye. It just depends on whether the devs decide to do it.

Can you, I haven't heard anything about the PSeye, do you have a link for that?

Not that it negates anything, how exactly does PSeye doing that not mean it's of somewhat value for for Kinect? Why you always gotta turn it into a PS4 vs X1 thing stage?


Because I am stating that its not an exclusive selling point if everyone can do it (then again, I might have to take it back since MS bought the exclusivity of DR3 just like the first game).  It's a specific instance but what happens when it comes down to truer exclusivity and multiplatform gaming. Everyone seems to be using some peripheral these days so the gap is getting slimmer and slimmer. The Kinects major selling point is that it could do things the other consoles couldnt by voice command or motion detection.....was it not? 

Sorry but nah, you're turning it into a war for no reason. You don't say blu ray or recording games isn't of value with PS4 because X1 does it, that's stupid.

It's one of many little things that gives kinect it's value, exclusive or not, and yes earlier you did say Kinect had no value and you were wrong.



 

S.T.A.G.E. on 12 August 2013
Bristow9091 said:
So... EVERYTHING they announced at the event in May, was a lie?

It seems they've done a 180 on just about everything they said back then, this was the last item that fanboys and haters had as ammunition against the console, and now it's been fixed... yeah.


Yep, it was a lie. They just needed to get people to believe in the concept of the Kinect 2. They know the commercial value is gone so they force bundled it and told people the Xbone couldn't go on without it. They also told everyone they couldnt overturn policies on DRM and they did within weeks. They basically lied about almost everything. Luckily in business its not always about lies, so the fans can get what they want out of the deal without being had.



endimion on 12 August 2013
AnthonyW86 said:
''It makes gaming better in many ways – from the ability to say “Xbox On” and get right to your personalized homescreen, to the ability to control your TV through voice''

Wait what!? What do any of those functions have to do with gaming?



i don't know maybe the fact that i spend more time gaming and consuming entertainment than navigating menus and setting stuff up.... just a thought

 even 30 seconde a day would represent hours of gaming and entertainment over the lifetime of the console.... but yeah useless.... like highspeed internet is useless too really...



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Subie_Greg on 12 August 2013

Good to hear. Thank you Microsoft



Nsanity on 12 August 2013

Xbox One Developer: Complete reversal Of Policy VS Changes In Policy - http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=166144



S.T.A.G.E. on 12 August 2013
Machiavellian said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Seece said:

 


Because I am stating that its not an exclusive selling point if everyone can do it (then again, I might have to take it back since MS bought the exclusivity of DR3 just like the first game).  It's a specific instance but what happens when it comes down to truer exclusivity and multiplatform gaming. Everyone seems to be using some peripheral these days so the gap is getting slimmer and slimmer. The Kinects major selling point is that it could do things the other consoles couldnt by voice command or motion detection.....was it not? 

I would say no one cares if another device can do something if that device is not getting support.  The difference will always be that the PSeye is just another add on while MS has made kinect center to their console experience.  Its the same as Nintendo making the Wiimote central to the Wii.  When developers think about features, they cost them just like anything else.  Costing a feature you know will be used because everyone has the device is totally different when that info is unknown.

I expect to see a lot of little kinect features that probably can be duplcated using the PSeye but not included for the PSeye because its just another add on.  

Tis true, a device is only as good as its support thus the problem with the Vita or the Move. The Kinect is not the center of the experience its an add on just the same. Xbox Live is the center of the console experience much like PSN is for the Playstation console. The Wiimote was central to the Wii but before the two of those the Eyetoy existed. Devs are using the Kinect not because it is special but because MS paid them. Ryse was supposed to prove once and for all the power of the Kinect, but alas the Kinect is a fallible device just as Sony said it was ( no different from the Eyetoy) and Ryse is now a fullscale game because of their failure to prove its value outside of Dance Central and that is a really fun franchise because I love to  dance.

Theres nothing for the PSEye to replicate besides for the multimedia screen swapping, thats about it. Where it matters for the game the PSEye coupled with the move was the remedy, but as you said before, its about the content coming in. No matter how good the tech its void overshadows the quality of the technology.



endimion on 12 August 2013
SvennoJ said:
Seece said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Seece said:
 

It does. I'm talking about when if you make a noise the zombies in DR3 can hear you and they flock towards you, or you can whistle and it'll distract them.


Oh, you can do that with the PS Eye. It just depends on whether the devs decide to do it.

Can you, I haven't heard anything about the PSeye, do you have a link for that?

Not that it negates anything, how exactly does PSeye doing that not mean it's of somewhat value for for Kinect? Why you always gotta turn it into a PS4 vs X1 thing stage?

You don't need PSeye or Kinect, splinter cell chaos theory already did this with the headset.



well true but the problem with that solution is that devs have to do the work implement the voice recognition and everything with kinect (and PSeye ????) they don't have to do any work almost they just have to use/implement what is already there... which means less time and money to spend on their side...especially when you start using words or even sentences in a huge number of different languages and accents....
whether people like it or not or want to use it or not doesn't take away the huge technological advantage it has and the possibilities it encompass for devs.... nos it's up to them to exploit them to make it relevant to most of us.... and this time they won't have time and cost issues as an argument...



wilco on 12 August 2013

This was the last thing that was putting me off from XBOne... glad to see microsoft may actually be listening, but I don't understand why they couldn't see it was a bad idea from the jump. Isn't it obvious that consumers will always prefer choice?

The last reversal MS needs to make is to only restrict multiplayer with Gold. All other multimedia features should not require Gold. Its not a deal breaker for me since I am already used to it on X360, but it is the last thing they need to be on equal footing with PS4.