this would be simple if the border was secured. too bad prez dingle berry's admin doesnt give a shit about it bc it means voters for them.

I understand we could sustain that many people but would we want to? Overcrowding is a huge problem in Japan. And i agree food waste is a problem but this is true among much of the developed world unfortuantely. 

Why single out Sharia law? that makes it sound like only Muslims immigrate. Every other race moves around too you know. For the UK, 350000 left the country last year while 515,000 came in. And they are a variety of ethnicities and races. 

Unfortunately I think it's a dark part of human nature/evolution.

We're a tribal species by nature, you put a human in the wild and physically we're rather mediocre and would get eaten alive by many predators in the wild, so the successful humans were likely those who roamed in packs (tribes) and were loyal to the tribe.

But that create tribalism, and humans tend to feel threatened by other tribes, I think that evolutionary hardwiring still exists.

Granted we've made tremendous progress and our brains have evolved tremendously too, but it's very easy to fall into the traps of xenophobia, racism, "us versus them" type thinking.

Cause its what the thread is asking? People aren't scared or anger cause the french bring their baquets with them or the chinese introducing peking duck... I'm  sure people in islamitic countries are scared that when people from the west immigrate they will try to bring their western thoughts and believes into the country..

Yeah probably but i don't understand it. We are all human at the end of the day... 

Because people come to Canada, and instead of trying to fit in with our society, we change society to accomodate their beliefs and traditions. We spend too much money helping them get settled, when in my opinion, if they want to come here they should already know English (or French if they're headed to Quebec) and have enough money to get started on their own. If they can't accomplish these simple things then they shouldn't be allowed in.

Immigration should anger no one. illegal immigration should anger everyone.

That said why is it that we see Mexican's on the corner selling fruit or flowers or some other thing or who will actually work for food/money while we see white people on the corner holding signs asking for money or food? I happen to be white myself and this bugs me to no end.

Just my two cents there but...

If you come here illegally you have broken the law and have taken the place of someone who has tried to get here the right way which is via the immigration system. Say what you want about how inefficient it is bypassing it ruins it for those who do it the right way. Be you Mexican, Canadian, Asian, Columbian, European etc. etc. etc. you have no right to be here illegally.

Mexican's just happen to get the brunt of it due to the massive numbers of them who take advantage of our porous borders. I mean seriously why is it that people think it is the United States' responsibility to harbor the disadvantaged of Mexico? The rich and powerful there benefit from the flight of those who otherwise are a drain on their own resources.

I'm not saying every person coming in from Mexico illegally is a dredge or lazy any more than I am saying those who come legally are all model citizens but it is a measurable standard by which we can gauge a person's benefit to our own society. Not to mention many who are fleeing Mexico bring many of the problems associated with Mexico like crime and drugs.

And as we had to do in the 80's we now have to decide whether our sovereignty is still important and what to do with millions of people who have broken our laws and what to do with them... The children they brought with them and the roots they have laid down.

Also, the politics involved are meant to take advantage of the admittedly precarious position these people are in as NO ONE votes against themselves. These people don't want to be shipped back to Mexico and we can ALL appreciate why. But do they want to be Americans or Mexicans who simply occupy America? If you are going to come here at least learn to integrate and leave what you were trying to escape from back where you came from.

It's a hard issue to tackle and I think it won't be fixed any time soon if ever.

You don't mind when people just sit around and do nothing but expect everything? Or not even that; people just blatantly breaking the clearly stated law? Why would you say that? How are either of these things okay?

I'm completely perfectly fine with (legal) immigration. When you come into any country legally and literally work for it, you deserve respect and to be apart of the society, if you want to. People should allow you to come in, not push you away.

But, when you "hop the border" you are doing something illegal. If you really want to be apart of our, or any, country do it the right way. And make sure you don't sit on your butt and expect, expect, expect.

Let's say that what bothers me isn't that they're an immigrant and "don't contribute."  It would simply be the "not contributing" part alone.  There are people who were born here that contribute nothing.  I don't think being an immigrant should be a reason to discriminate.  Some people say about how our money and hardwork pays for these people, or that they need to earn their right to live here... but I think it shouldn't be thought about that way.  

Who really has the right to say that you can or can't live somewhere?  We may claim ownership of land, but the way we even gained this "authority" was through dirty means.  People who "don't contribute" to society tend to not have all the benefits a full legal citizen has anyway.  

I also don't think most people who are here illegally just sit around and do nothing.  That's not how you survive in this country.  Where would you get the means to survive as an illegal immigrant?  Most of them don't have connections to the place they go to.  There are also a lot of complications when trying to do things the "right" way.  What constitutes the "right" way is a flawed set of rules in the first place.  The "right" way can change.  

Ironically, this country (USA) was formed from NOT abiding to every single law.  The people have, or is supposed to have, some influence on what becomes law.  I'm not saying everyone has to agree with me, but I think I'm making it pretty clear that just being an immigrant doesn't bother me or make me upset.  There are a lot of reasons why things are the way they are.  I would say it's much more likely you'll see people who aren't immigrants sitting on their butts than the immigrants.  Think about how much effort it takes some of these people to even get here.  Some of them may not do much, but I'm willing to bet that most of them try hard to do what they can.