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riderz13371 said:
walsufnir said:
riderz13371 said:
walsufnir said:
riderz13371 said:
Why does this console still have a power brick...Come on Microsoft. 


Seen the mainboard? No? We have found an answer.

No. What's wrong with the mainboard? And why doesn't Sony have this problem with the PS4?


Two different engineering teams at two different companies with different experiences regarding console-heat, two designer-teams and philosophies on intended use. Tada, two different looking consoles. Amazing how stuff works, isn't it?

So Sony has a better engineering team?

thanks


In your world better, yes. At least you even got a small piece of understanding.

You are welcome.



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riderz13371 said:
Why does this console still have a power brick...Come on Microsoft.

Also am I the only one that finds this dude annoying.

Honestly, an external power supply is better than an internal power supply.  You remove a primary source of heat.  You remove a potential failure point, making it easily fixable with a replacement part.  And when you combine a 6' cable on either end of the power supply, you have 12' from the wall you can work with.

The only benefit of an internal power supply is that you don't have an external power supply. 



Wow. Power brick superiority? This is really what it's come to?



Munkeh111 said:
Adinnieken said:
Munkeh111 said:
I'm a bit pissed off at M$ because of Halo 2 at the moment, but seriously, why would anyone believe anything that they say now? They have changed most of the things about this console. It is one thing listening to fans, but what is the point of designing the console in the first place, why not just make a poll on a website to decide the design in the first place

Anyway, I am now going to go and actually watch the video, but having a headset is a good idea as I have said before

Actually, any good company, before they ever bring a product to market does focus testing.

If you've never worked in the corporate world, you don't know or understand the power of the bean counters, the accountants and CFO.  I've worked in a company where the amount of floor space your cubicle occupied, and the cost to heat/cool that space was measured for every employee and figured into the cost of that employee.  Sometimes you have people who look too closely at the numbers. 

I think the other problem is that the Xbox One as a product, including all of its services and features, are coming together in the here and now.  I think the rumors that Microsoft was caught off-guard by Sony releasing this year were likely true.  I think Microsoft anticipate it had another year to bring everything into focus, but when Sony announced the PS4 would release this year it caught them unprepared.  That doesn't mean that they didn't have everything in the works, just that instead of 15-16 months before they had to have all their plans ironed out, they only had 3 - 4.

The reveal, for example, seemed like something better suited for CES rather than any other event.  If you compare the Xbox 360 reveal to the Xbox One reveal, they're completely different.  The style, the energy, and the information.  

I don't see how M$ were not prepared, the 360 is 8 years old! The problem hasn't just been that they haven't got their plans in order, it has been that they have completely thrown out the window. I can see how some more time might have been better for their always online strategy and yes, if they had more time maybe they would have actually communicated their ideas properly, but that is clearly their fault

I really don't think that they have any excuse for being caughty off guard by the PS4, there is no way that they could have left the Xbox One for another year given how it is currently selling.

I don't think they did focus groups.  I think the executives came up with a plan of what they wanted to do and didn't really put feelers.

If you don't see how Microsoft wasn't prepared, then you're kind of blind.  I mean, for a year there has been a DRM rumor regarding the Xbox One (Durango) and at the Xbox reveal Microsoft not only doesn't address it properly, but they handled it very poorly.  When everyone is talking off different notes, there is a communications problem.  When one executive tells people, we'll talk more about that later, and then another starts talking about some of those details before the more important details in between were talked about, there is a communications problem.

The only way to have a communications problem THAT bad is to be unprepared.



riderz13371 said:
Adinnieken said:
Munkeh111 said:
I do like that on/off switch!

But change the packaging, the first thing that you should see is the console, not the other way around! Oh and nice big power brick

I was slightly confused by "the kinect is an IR blaster" part. I know that the Xbox One controls your satellite box by IR, but does this mean that the Kinect fires the commands out to your box? I was actually discussing this with a friend, does this mean that your Kinect beams out the signal and relies on it reflecting off the back wall onto your satellite box?

No, you want the heaviest component at the bottom, so when you stack them then don't crush the box. 

If you really want to see the console first, pull out the accessory box, then the console.  You can pull the accessory box out as a complete layer without unboxing everything in it.  Then unbox the accessory box.

Yeah, I'm guessing Kinect 2 emits a strong IR signal that reflects off of surfaces back into the TV or satellite/cable box. 

Why would it matter where the heaviest component was? If it was on the bottom, what would happen if you flipped the box? Would it not be on the top?

You've obviously never worked in a warehouse.

It would be on top, but it makes the box top heavy, and more subject to tipping.

Center of gravity.  Put the heaviest item on the bottom, you put the center of gravity lower, the box is more stable.  Not to mention the "top" of most boxes are designed to be stronger than the bottoms.  Those folded sides, for example, they create strength, but that strength is at the top of the box, not at the bottom. 

When you start stacking boxes on top of boxes, and you have a high center of gravity, any movement will cause them to tip over.  If you flip the box over, because you've loaded it "upside down", the bottom of the box will get crushed by the boxes on top.  Anything heavy you want on the bottom of a box.

Every pallet has a load pattern, every box has to be loaded in a certain way.  Doesn't matter what box, they all need to be loaded properly.



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Pretty cool video. I like the look of the console itself, but the controller looks more boomerangy then it did before. I don't know how I feel about that.



Adinnieken said:
Munkeh111 said:
I do like that on/off switch!

But change the packaging, the first thing that you should see is the console, not the other way around! Oh and nice big power brick

I was slightly confused by "the kinect is an IR blaster" part. I know that the Xbox One controls your satellite box by IR, but does this mean that the Kinect fires the commands out to your box? I was actually discussing this with a friend, does this mean that your Kinect beams out the signal and relies on it reflecting off the back wall onto your satellite box?

No, you want the heaviest component at the bottom, so when you stack them then don't crush the box. 

If you really want to see the console first, pull out the accessory box, then the console.  You can pull the accessory box out as a complete layer without unboxing everything in it.  Then unbox the accessory box.

Yeah, I'm guessing Kinect 2 emits a strong IR signal that reflects off of surfaces back into the TV or satellite/cable box. 

You are assuming that they keep them the right way up the whole time... I was thinking along the lines of my new laptop where I open the box and the first thing I see is the beautiful top of the laptop. It is definitely the most asthetically pleasing way.

I suppose that should work, though IR blasters are rarely 100% at the best of times. I don't think it will work with my stuff anyway

As for your other quote:

I am not neccessarily saying that M$ was fully prepared, I am just saying that they have absolutely no excuse for not being prepared.
So firstly, there is no way that they should not have been planning the Xbox One for this year
Secondly, they would have known that always online was going to be controversial and they were just plain stupid in not talking about it or addressing it fully





My God that's a sexy beast.

walsufnir said:
riderz13371 said:
walsufnir said:
riderz13371 said:
Why does this console still have a power brick...Come on Microsoft. 


Seen the mainboard? No? We have found an answer.

No. What's wrong with the mainboard? And why doesn't Sony have this problem with the PS4?


Two different engineering teams at two different companies with different experiences regarding console-heat, two designer-teams and philosophies on intended use. Tada, two different looking consoles. Amazing how stuff works, isn't it?

That is like the worst possible way to explain yourself dude lol.

@riderz13371

Microsoft wants the Xbox One to be as quiet as possible even during the most intense gaming situations. Putting the PSU outside the console really helps with this since there is less heat and more room in the box meaning you can fit a larger fan rotating at a lower speed.



Headset! Woot woot!

Anyone have any info on the kensington security lock feature? I have no idea what that is and how to use it.

System looks fucking beautiful.



It's just that simple.