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twilight_link on 29 June 2013

the rumor was that Stamper brothers wanted to sell the entire company to Nintendo at once but they declined the offer instead they (Nintendo) bought minor shares irregularly so they contacted Activision and Microsoft, i remember the ominous Christmas card around year 2001, with Xbox, PS2 and Gamecube.

Sad because Rare was great developer



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KungKras on 29 June 2013
pokoko said:
KungKras said:
pokoko said:
You know, I'm still not quite sure why people always blame the parent company for buying and "ruining" a game development studio but never criticize the people responsible for selling, who usually then leave and form another studio. In most cases, it's not like that had to sell. They just saw dollar signs and lots of them. They picked money over controlling the future of their company. Do I blame them? No, not really, but I certainly think they bear as much responsibility for a studio's decline as anyone else. When you sell to an EA or an Activision, you know what might happen eventually.

Anyway, development studios rise and fall naturally as staff comes and goes. Many of the studios that have been around for a long time are no longer the same as they once were. It's not something I really stress about. The only real shame is when well-loved IP get mishandled or forgotten.

There is thins thing called hostile takeover.

Which does not apply to the vast majority of privately owned development studios.

It's how they took out Westwood and Bullfrog.



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hunter_alien on 29 June 2013

Yeah... Rare is done. As soon as they release a couple of commercial failures they will be closed. Too bad, the things they did in the 90's where amazing



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Wright on 29 June 2013

The amount of hate from the OP is palpable.



S.T.A.G.E. on 29 June 2013
F0X said:
demonfox13 said:
Rare ruined comfirmed lol. Oh well, I hope KI is not as horrible as what's being said.


Don't worry. Double Helix is developing Killer Instinct, not Rare.


Bloody Hell! No wonder!



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Viper1 on 29 June 2013
Zero999 said:
pokoko said:
You know, I'm still not quite sure why people always blame the parent company for buying and "ruining" a game development studio but never criticize the people responsible for selling, who usually then leave and form another studio. In most cases, it's not like that had to sell. They just saw dollar signs and lots of them. They picked money over controlling the future of their company. Do I blame them? No, not really, but I certainly think they bear as much responsibility for a studio's decline as anyone else. When you sell to an EA or an Activision, you know what might happen eventually.

Anyway, development studios rise and fall naturally as staff comes and goes. Many of the studios that have been around for a long time are no longer the same as they once were. It's not something I really stress about. The only real shame is when well-loved IP get mishandled or forgotten.

I love how everything is an oportunity for you to try and diminish nintendo, i guess haters gonna hate forever. M$ is the one who f#cked up rare in every sense of the word, period.

He's actually not talking about Nintendo but the Stamper Brothers.   Nintendo didn't sell Rare directly to MS like many people think.  Nintendo sold their 49% stake in Rare back to the Rare.  Then Rare sold 100% of the shares to MS.   Pokoko is putting the blame on the Stamper Brothers for selling the company and then bailing on them.



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slowmo on 29 June 2013

Poor OP, you try too hard in your hatred of Microsoft.



Jaywood2010 on 29 June 2013
slowmo said:
Poor OP, you try too hard in your hatred of Microsoft.


He got banned for it.  That and a later comment.  Not sure why the OP hasn't been edited though.  All the article says is that once the stamper bros left the company changed and now they are kind of rebirthing themselves and they are excited to see it.  The culture clash came with a huge company buying them and staff changes (which is normal for a company that loses leadership) once Stamper left. from what is said.  Nothing about MSFT being evil etc.

The only games made from rare since has been Viva Pinata, Banjo, and Kinect Sports.  Viva Pinata and Kinect Sports has been a big success so the death of rare has been more of a myth than anything.  They was doing worst with Stamper and this is going back to the gamecube as well although both Conker Live & Reloaded as well as Kameo was great.




       

Mr Puggsly on 29 June 2013
hunter_alien said:
Yeah... Rare is done. As soon as they release a couple of commercial failures they will be closed. Too bad, the things they did in the 90's where amazing

They had numerous games that could be considered failures before Kinect Sports.

If they closed Rare it would only be because they have an even better studios that makes casual games.



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techhunter80 on 29 June 2013

I want to ask something, why did Nintendo sell them in the first place? Were they not doing as well as they used to, did some key people leave, or did Nintendo just not want them. Really why did that happen?