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Conegamer on 24 June 2013

Well, I would say the Vita is easily in a worse scenario than the Wii U, and Nintendo can turn it around. You count on that.

And way to cherry-pick the weeks as well. The previous week would have been far better to prove your point, as it wouldn't include the launches of AC and TLoU.



 

Here lies the dearly departed Nintendomination Thread.

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tuscaniman99 on 24 June 2013

Very insightful thread and I feel smarter after reading it. -__-



disolitude on 24 June 2013

When I read this and the tone its written in, all I see is...

Playstation rules! Everything else sucks!

Am I seeing things or is this really the point of this thread?



chocoloco on 24 June 2013
Mensrea said:
blublibla said:
3DS 264,483 (+114%) 31,902,736
PS3 146,813 (+21%) 77,817,920
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That's not exactly an educated assumption. This holiday the Wii U will have the most impressive lineup, I think we should wait until after the games hit to call it a failure. Sure it's doing very poorly right now, but saying: "It WIll Never get better because deal with it this is not 2006" is pretty dumb. 

 

Also, you fail to mention the 3DS which is handily beating the shit out of the rest of the consoles. 

The 3DS is 2 or three years old and hitting the peak times most gaming systems sell. The comparison is almost worthless as it is a handheld and the 360 and PS3 are 7 years old. The 3Ds is only rightfully compared to the Vita. 

You are forgetting Wii U has horrible third party support. It is strange you could even think Nintendo's holiday lineup is more impressive than all of the other consoles. No GTA 5 on Wii U just as a small example, or Gran Turismo 6. 

Edit: If I recall correctly most of Nintendo's first party is coming out in 2014 not 2013?



theprof00 on 24 June 2013

well, that was hard to read. Sure it was factual, but the tone was a little antagonizing. Sony fan, myself.



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Mensrea on 24 June 2013
chocoloco said:
Mensrea said:
blublibla said:
3DS 264,483 (+114%) 31,902,736
PS3 146,813 (+21%) 77,817,920
X



That's not exactly an educated assumption. This holiday the Wii U will have the most impressive lineup, I think we should wait until after the games hit to call it a failure. Sure it's doing very poorly right now, but saying: "It WIll Never get better because deal with it this is not 2006" is pretty dumb. 

 

Also, you fail to mention the 3DS which is handily beating the shit out of the rest of the consoles. 

The 3DS is 2 or three years old and hitting the peak times most gaming systems sell. The comparison is almost worthless as it is a handheld and the 360 and PS3 are 7 years old. The 3Ds is only rightfully compared to the Vita. 

You are forgetting Wii U has horrible third party support. It is strange you could even think Nintendo's holiday lineup is more impressive than all of the other consoles. No GTA 5 on Wii U just as a small example, or Gran Turismo 6. 


I meant amongst next gen consoles, I didn't include that there, my bad.

PS3 will probably still beat all home consoles this holiday IMO.




GameAnalyser on 24 June 2013

3DS is the only reason why Nintendo persists. Wii U is hurting, really hurting it now.



biglittlesps on 24 June 2013
superspeedybull said:
Mensrea said:
blublibla said:
3DS 264,483 (+114%) 31,902,736
PS3 146,813 (+21%) 77,817,920
X360 79,854 (+1%) 77,609,830
PSP 50,038 (-1%) 79,241,760
PSV 33,095 (+18%) 5,235,935
Wii 26,070 (-7%) 99,686,450
WiiU 23,103 (-4%) 3,169,446

Let's put things in perspective :

1.
The Xbox 360 was release in 2005.
The PS3 and Wii were released in 2006.
The Wii sold the most console ever (99.5M) but the PS3 has sold more than X360 altough it was release one year after.

2.
The PS3 is selling almost twice more than X360 which is great momentum for the current and also the next generation.
The Wii however is not and has not been selling well for two years now.

3. 
Hence the Wii U is really a failure sale/attraction wise. There's no getting around it : it's selling less than current consoles, it's selling less than the PSVita, it's selling less than the Wii and according to recent number, there's more PS4 and Xbox One pre-orders monthly than Wii U sales.

In fact the PS4 has 2 pre-orders for one Xbox One, and most relevant analyst predict 3 to 4 PS4 sold for 1 Xbox One (I agree with the 3:1 numbers for this year)

Conclusion :

This generation is not set up. In fact before comparing consoles I have to remind you : there's never been so much changes and threat to the consoles than now (PC, Moble, Homebrew, TVs...).

But the Wii U IS BY ALL MEAN A FAILURE. It WILL NEVER get better because, deal with it, the context has changed, it's not the Wii era 2006 but the next-gen era 2013.

The Battle will be between the PS4 and Xbox One. The DRM debacle gave the PS4 a big headstart but as usual the casual and couch potatoes will decide which one wins, nowing that in Asia the Xbox One won't even be available as well as in many other countries, that currently the PS3 outsold the Xbox 360 in Europe and Asia, and the X360 sold more in the US, but is now selling as much as PS3.


That's not exactly an educated assumption. This holiday the Wii U will have the most impressive lineup, I think we should wait until after the games hit to call it a failure. Sure it's doing very poorly right now, but saying: "It WIll Never get better because deal with it this is not 2006" is pretty dumb. 

 

Also, you fail to mention the 3DS which is handily beating the shit out of the rest of the consoles. 

The 3DS is a handheld console so I think it should'nt be compared to Home Consoles. Compare it to the Vita and yes it is kicking its ass.

Yes, you're right and also we're missing one big point that PS3 is sold at 250 and 300$ whereas other consoles are cheap except Wii U. So PS3 is doing great with that big price and 3DS is doing such big becoz of its price mostly(can it sale this much with a price point of 200$ or more?i bet it can't). This is the reason why Wii sold 99 Million as well but PS3 did 78 million with very big price from the starting which is really big achievement and no others can achieve this with a big price(look at Wii U).



GAMING is not about spending hours to pass/waste our time just for fun,

its a Feeling/Experience about a VIRTUAL WORLD we can never be in real, and realizing some of our dreams (also creating new ones).

So, Feel Emotions, Experience Adventure/Action, Challenge Game, Solve puzzles and Have fun.

PlayStation is about all-round "New experiences" using new IP's to provide great diversity for everyone.

Xbox is always about Online and Shooting.

Nintendo is always about Fun games and milking IP's.

acdcste on 24 June 2013
GameAnalyser said:
3DS is the only reason why Nintendo persists. Wii U is hurting, really hurting it now.


That makes zero sense. Persists with what? As if six months of below average sales for the wii u are getting to make nintendo withdraw from the market. Geez.



Zkuq on 24 June 2013

I don't really want to argue about whether Nintendo is doomer or not this time, but last I argued about it with Nintendo fans, they told me to wait until E3 and the accouncements it'd bring with it. Well, here we are, post-E3, and now they're telling to wait until Christmas. What gives?