It's going to cost them this holiday season, but this will all be swept under the rug in a year or two. The internet tends to have short term memory.

I'll check out the video later.  At work right now.  But I still don't see how bundling Windows with their laptop negate them from earning royalties on a technology assumingly they have a part in.

I can't even remember why I was made at them now. :/

Time will heal these wounds. Consumers won't stay mad about something that ultimately never made it into the final version of the console. Microsoft has a good lineup of games for their console, too, so that will help win people back as well.

I still expect Sony will take an early lead this holiday, if for no other reason than price, but Microsoft should be able to keep up with Sony in the long run, and it will continue to get good support from developers and publishers.

maz do you have a source for that? Because xb1 requires a full install of every single game. I have not seen anything similar announced for ps4. There ARE games that may require full installs, but for example, mgs4 had an install every chapter due to lack of ram.

I do not see how MS can keep up. They offer the same product at a higher price, this will cost them their best market, the US. with out that they dont have any advantage over SOny or Nintendo for getting game developers and publishers to push and use their sytem. I think MS shot themsleves in the foot with back peddling. Time will tell, but MS messed this one up bad.

I'm not sure what you're saying here.

An install isn't necessary to use the HDD for cache. The Xbox 360 will use the HDD for cache without an install.

Also, the installs being between chapters was done so you don't have a really long install at the start. I believe that trophy patch also let you do a full install instead of between chapters.

are you sure it was lack of ram and not the read speed of the bluray drive? i thought ps3 installed games due to the low read speed of the BD drive. I dont think installes are needed to use the hard drive as a cache

Installs were needed because of long access times to cut down on loading.
I already predicted the day tha they said 8gb that we would see the end of load times.
Suddenly, every game seems to be open world with no loading.

Xb1 requires installs because of drm, not to improve performance. They also said they wanted the xb1 to have seemless transitioning between voice commands and launching programs. I very much doubt that we are going to be seeing a lot of installs or loading on ps4.

I am pretty sure its to improve performance and give a more pc like platform game devs. now wether its pc, xbox one or ps4 all games will be intsalled. I could be wrong but I swore the ps4 installs all games too.i know its wikipideia but i dont have time to search all over and find a better answer. do you have sources saying they wont need installs?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PS4#Games

PlayGo

When a title is selected online, only a portion of the game data has to be transferred to the system before it can be started (e.g. the first level), with the remaining parts downloading during play, reducing waiting time. If users prefer to play their game directly from disc, PS4 will install data to the hard drive during play, eliminating loading times. This is accomplished via the system's background processor. Similarly, system updates are downloaded seamlessly in the background without interruption.^[66] The PS4 also features technology that attempts to determine trends, including titles a gamer is likely to express interest in next, and then automatically download a small percentage of those games in the background, even in sleep mode, in order to save time.^[14]