I know Uncharted 2,3, TLOU and GoW3 look good but has everybody forgotten how good Gears of War 3 and Halo 4 look? Honestly there isn't that much difference. It will be similar this gen.

Agreed. I'm just happy it'll be good ports for the Xbox and PS4 all the way through the gen!

It's weird that the power gap is debatable. We know the specs already. The PS4 is more powerful, but not by a ton. You'll probably only see a big difference in first party games.

remember when ps3 was supposed to be way more powerful than the 360, oh those were the days

So pretty much, we'll have two console doing the same thing. With some exclusive features on each. As much I like the Playstation brand, I would wish it tried to more of a console (PS2) then a PC.

I'm not sure this will actually be true. Remember that PS4 and XO are pretty much PCs - unlike the PS3 and X360. Also the position of PCs is way different now than it was when current gen was released. PCs are already more powerful than even PS4, so the devs making multiplats will be making better looking versions of their games than the XO can handle, if only for the PC market and they can put some of these assets into the PS4 versions, since the console will be able to deal with more stuff than the XO without additional work. This would result in a better looking PS4 game without the need of generating higher costs, cause the assets were already created for PC version anyway - it's just the matter of which assets you copy to which version.

I think the PS4 games will look and run better, it will be clearly visible in side-to-side comparisons. The difference should be bigger than this gen, though if you just buy an XO and ignore side-to-side screens and videos you should be happy with what you get. It's gonna be quite close and you'll get a similar experience. The thing is, why pay $100 more just to be close behind?

Iam sure games look almost the same

It's going to be the exact same as last gen, with first party games having a clear graphical edge on the PS4. Of course, without the RAM limitations of the PS3 (when compared to the 360) and a ~50% better GPU, I think the differences are going to be a bit bigger than last gen. The difference to last gen, however, is the PS4 will never get bad ports of 3rd party games. 3rd party games will either run/look the exact same on both platforms or they will look slightly better on the PS4.

@necro... comparable means similar... he didn't say one was better than the other, but that (for new games especially) the difference would be mostly negligible as they would both look very similar. Perhaps 2-3 years down the road we might see more of a difference, but as this past gen has proven better hardware means squat in regards to output from third parties. It will come down to which platform provides a better dev kit for optimization for that platforms games. Since MS is better at software they may have the graphical advantage early on, but since Sony has seemingly made it really easy to optimize for the PS4 it might be in their favor. We will only know when games start getting released and played. Even then I doubt a user of either console will be disappointed in next gen graphics overall.

Should and will are two different things. 3rd parties only put in as much effort as required. Every PS4 game should look noticeably better than their XB1 counterparts, I just don't think 3rd parties will do more than they have to. Eventhough the Gamecube and Xbox were more powerful and easier to program for than the PS2, multiplats still rarely looked much better and in several cases actually ran worse than their PS2 counterparts.