yet having to switch canal and switch remotes is just so oldfashioned.... in those day and age I should be able to handle my entire in house entertainement hands free while cooking dinner.... XB360 and kinect 1 got closer and XB1 and kinect 2 is getting right there.... but hey if you want to keep a bunch of remots and batteries and all kind of extra unecessary and even outrageous steps in those day and age it is up to you my friend... now i'll be able to do a game session call friends or familly, get up go in the kitchen fix meself some fine dinner while watching TV, come back and borrow a "close friend" game all that seemlessly.... so far XB1 is the only truly next gen console (call it media box if you want, it's what I want anyway) PS4 is just a more powerful current gen console....

Not at all.

And I'd take you seriously if I wasn't approximately 99.9999999% sure I have seen you advocating for the PS4's other features on these very forums

Do you see what I did there?

we have no idea how many people dont have an account the most we can say is 30 mil since we dont know how many of the 77 are replace models or people who have more then one console with the same account

Name them.

I keep hearing about these advantages, but nobody ever seems to name them.

Name them.

Registering to an account is mandatory for all games. Did you not know this? Well sorry to break it to you.

Third party publishers don't HAVE to impose anything because MS is already doing it lol. I don't know who got the idea that publishers would be programming in DRM into xb1 games when MS' entire strategy is to do it FOR THEM lol What are they going to port over? Nonexistant code?

Ten of your friends is unconfirmed. Depending on how this ten friends thing works out, I may actually buy an xb1, but I'll bet there are all kinds of limitations on this.

What! A REASONABLE understanding that we could be paying for games directly?  Not the oil companies for drilling the oil, or the chemical companies for making it into plastic, not the oil companies again to ship the things around the world, plus paying the shippers/packagers, then all the retailers, their rent, their employees, the returns from crazy people, the mark up at retail on games.

So that currently, say a publisher only makes say $5 on a retail game, we could go directly from them on our existing infrastructure (i.e. the Internet) and buy the game from them?

So, with what you are stating, the cost of the game we buy digitally, more of those dollars actually goes to people who make/created the game?  So can we conclude that they will then have more money to make more games?

Right now, yes it looks like a hybrid of digital/retail.  Seems like an awkward baby step, but I get what you are saying.

My only current bump is for people say with say with bad or no internet, like soldiers station over seas.  I know they can’t play online games, but I hope they find a way to let them play offline games – say having your console set in offline mode.

This guy can bring up crap that's very anti-consumer disguised as "we want to be Steam", but at the end of the day I won't be able to rent games for this console.

If this isn't lame, I don't know what is.

Let's assume this is true for a moment, Steam prices are what they are because they have to compete with piracy. If piracy was solved on PC then you can be sure steam prices would never drop. This here in lies the problem: console market isn't as affected by piracy. They can completely get rid of physical and used market, but it'll be bad for consumers because prices will not drop. New games have to compete with the used game market and overstock which is why new games get discounted within a month. But flawed logic is flawed logic.

I can totally believe this. This is exactly how MS views the world.

It was this guy on /b/ last night. 4chan seems to think he's legit.