Sorry but there is whole market of digital distribution that is thriving.  You do realize that over 50% of pc software game sales is now digital.  I hate to break it to the collectors but you are the minority and your numbers are getting smaller by the day.

I am not trying to strawman anyone.  You responded twice, neither addressed the content of my post appropriately, if at all.

I suspect it may be that we simply disagree.

Ultimately I am likely to purchase both systems, likely the PS4 first actually.  My point is simply that the enormous overreaction to the Xbox ONE was just that, and at this point its gaming offerings appear superior to the PS4s, on current information.  I am far more annoyed at MS over price than anything else.

For future reference, often accusing someone of using strawman tactics is an instance of using strawman tactics in itself

I saw somewhere else, it was definitely ONE running copy.

This is an argument neither of us can prove...but here goes...

Most of those auctions are listed for weeks, if not more.  And by how many accounts?  Far fewer.  And compared to how many consoles? 250 million sold last generation so far and growth projected?  As I said, a tiny minority, and overwhelmingly conducted through Gamestop.

Irrespective, though more restrictive, the Xbox ONE DOES make provisions for selling games.

Your points were about the DRM. The DRM problem refers specifically to the ability to sell used games. THAT'S the big issue that people are complaining about if you haven't been paying attention to the news.
My response is apt. You saying that my point is about clarity is purposely misinforming to help validate an inappropriate argument. My point about clarity was regarding how the family member policy worked. I never made it a point to say "we require clarification from a company", rather, that we cannot admit certain evidence into an argument until clarified.

So yes, very dfferent assertion.

"Is it not you that is arguing in favour of formalised and clearly tangible systems and services?"

That's not what I'm arguing for. I'm arguing that we should only admit evidence that has been clearly provided.
Gaikai is guaranteed, because that has been the goal from the beginning, hence the 4k fucking output. Clever wording to say one thing while implying another, is a different issue.

sigh, we'll just wait and see.

the way i understand it is that the owner can play when ever no matter which of the ten are playing.  but for the 10 that are on the sharing thing can only play either one account at a time or if theres 10 games each one can olny be playing one of those games at a time

Yes, I think that would be the most apt course of action.

yet having to switch canal and switch remotes is just so oldfashioned.... in those day and age I should be able to handle my entire in house entertainement hands free while cooking dinner.... XB360 and kinect 1 got closer and XB1 and kinect 2 is getting right there.... but hey if you want to keep a bunch of remots and batteries and all kind of extra unecessary and even outrageous steps in those day and age it is up to you my friend... now i'll be able to do a game session call friends or familly, get up go in the kitchen fix meself some fine dinner while watching TV, come back and borrow a "close friend" game all that seemlessly.... so far XB1 is the only truly next gen console (call it media box if you want, it's what I want anyway) PS4 is just a more powerful current gen console....