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theprof00 said:
starcraft said:

I am not trying to strawman anyone.  You responded twice, neither addressed the content of my post appropriately, if at all.

I suspect it may be that we simply disagree.

Ultimately I am likely to purchase both systems, likely the PS4 first actually.  My point is simply that the enormous overreaction to the Xbox ONE was just that, and at this point its gaming offerings appear superior to the PS4s, on current information.  I am far more annoyed at MS over price than anything else.

For future reference, often accusing someone of using strawman tactics is an instance of using strawman tactics in itself

Your points were about the DRM. The DRM problem refers specifically to the ability to sell used games. THAT'S the big issue that people are complaining about if you haven't been paying attention to the news.
My response is apt. You saying that my point is about clarity is purposely misinforming to help validate an inappropriate argument. My point about clarity was regarding how the family member policy worked. I never made it a point to say "we require clarification from a company", rather, that we cannot admit certain evidence into an argument until clarified.

So yes, very dfferent assertion.

"Is it not you that is arguing in favour of formalised and clearly tangible systems and services?"

That's not what I'm arguing for. I'm arguing that we should only admit evidence that has been clearly provided.
Gaikai is guaranteed, because that has been the goal from the beginning, hence the 4k fucking output. Clever wording to say one thing while implying another, is a different issue.

We're drawing very different conclusions from the same information.

You are, in my opinion, dramatically overstating the impact that Microsoft's DRM will have on gamers, as well as overstating its difference from Sony's system.  You're not overstating the reaction of the gaming media, which has been incredibly reactionary and ill-informed.

Gaikai exists.  Sony will attempt to implement some of its technologies in PS4.  That is all that is guarenteed.  What is far from guarenteed is how they will do this, when they will do this, and whether any of this will in anyway match up to the extensive and specific cloud technologies Microsoft has already announced and is already utilising in its game development.

One thing 4k output will have in common with DRM though, is t he remarkably small number of people it has a tangible effect on.



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