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thranx on 07 June 2013
Chandler said:


Greenmangaming for a start. But that's just the tip of the iceberg.


http://www.greenmangaming.com/coming-soon/

 

when are the games for sale on day one? all those seem like normal prices. do they do sales at cewrtain times like steam



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Chandler on 07 June 2013
thranx said:
Chandler said:


Greenmangaming for a start. But that's just the tip of the iceberg.


http://www.greenmangaming.com/coming-soon/

 

when are the games for sale on day one? all those seem like normal prices. do they do sales at cewrtain times like steam

Gmg almost always has a 20 or 25 disount code active and if gmg doesn't have one another store has something up. 2game is pretty good (not digital), game.co.uk sometimes has good digital deals, amazon.com and so on. Sometimes there are even nice promotions where you can snatch a nice deal if you are savvy. I got Bioshock Infinite (Steam), Tomb Raider (Steam) and Far Cry 3 Blood Money for 30€ combined. Before any of those 3 games launched.



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thranx on 07 June 2013
Chandler said:
thranx said:
Chandler said:


Greenmangaming for a start. But that's just the tip of the iceberg.


http://www.greenmangaming.com/coming-soon/

 

when are the games for sale on day one? all those seem like normal prices. do they do sales at cewrtain times like steam

Gmg almost always has a 20 or 25 disount code active and if gmg doesn't have one another store has something up. 2game is pretty good (not digital), game.co.uk sometimes has good digital deals, amazon.com and so on. Sometimes there are even nice promotions where you can snatch a nice deal if you are savvy. I got Bioshock Infinite (Steam), Tomb Raider (Steam) and Far Cry 3 Blood Money for 30€ combined.

cool. I have heard others mention them but never checked them out.  iwill next time i want a game day 1



Mummelmann on 07 June 2013
disolitude said:
Both services require internet to activate and are very similar apart from these things:

- Steam does not need a check in every 24 hours. Once you install a game fully, you can play it offline. Unless you start a game update and don't finish it...in which case you can't play that game at all till you finish the update.

- Steam does not allow for game sharing with family, giving to "a friend" or re-selling (digital or retail). Whatever you buy, is tied to your Steam account forever and ever. Xbox One supposedly does allow for this.


The bottom one is not true, Steam allows you to purchase gifts and even "4 packs" at a large discount to share with friends. On the One, your game is tied to your Live account in the same way that a Steam title you purchase for yourself, so they're both for sharing with the family in a restricted manner. The One prohibits giving games to a friend and allows a resale only through Azure.

Other differences;

As mentioned, Steam has an offline mode and your games still function even without a connection, this is handy in cases like when I recently went without internet for 17 days.

Steam is cheap, consumer friendly and, just as importantly; developer friendly.

Steam works on all kinds of hardware and is even available on Mac (even though Mac is crap to game on).

Steam is free, there's no subscription fee to access the full service nor does it cost money to play online (with extremely few exceptions).

Valve are the masters of the universe. That is all.



Chandler on 07 June 2013
CGI-Quality said:
Chandler said:
CGI-Quality said:
Chandler said:
CGI-Quality said:

Eh, that's like saying it's stupid to buy a disc-based console game on Day 1 because it will eventually be on sale. The prinicple of desire is the same in both cases - if you want a game that just came (or have wanted it), you'll buy it. I don't think it's stupid to do so just because it will, eventually, be on sale.


You can get ANY game day 1 for less than what Steam charges.

Brand new PC downloads? Really? Where?


Greenmangaming for a start. But that's just the tip of the iceberg.

Oh look, Remember Me. I bought that on Steam for $49.99. Guess what it is a@ Greenmangaming: $49.99. I don't see and Day 1 deals for brand new titles. 

Still doesn't make anyone stupid for choosing Steam, even IF these deals were real.

Edit: I DO see a 25% off code for Remember Me. Now, begs the question, are these random downloads or can they be activated through Steam?


http://2game.com/remember-me-1088?acc=a87ff679a2f3e71d9181a67b7542122c

 

It's the retail version of remember me, but it has Steam DRM and 2game delivers FAST in all of europe. Well, germany at least. Friend of mine ordered Tomb Raider retail there, the sent it monday, arrived wednesday and launch was friday. But £ 19.99 is like 24€ or something, that's half off what steam charges, you get a shiny box and can install from disc.



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thranx on 07 June 2013
Mummelmann said:
disolitude said:
Both services require internet to activate and are very similar apart from these things:

- Steam does not need a check in every 24 hours. Once you install a game fully, you can play it offline. Unless you start a game update and don't finish it...in which case you can't play that game at all till you finish the update.

- Steam does not allow for game sharing with family, giving to "a friend" or re-selling (digital or retail). Whatever you buy, is tied to your Steam account forever and ever. Xbox One supposedly does allow for this.


The bottom one is not true, Steam allows you to purchase gifts and even "4 packs" at a large discount to share with friends. On the One, your game is tied to your Live account in the same way that a Steam title you purchase for yourself, so they're both for sharing with the family in a restricted manner. The One prohibits giving games to a friend and allows a resale only through Azure.

Other differences;

As mentioned, Steam has an offline mode and your games still function even without a connection, this is handy in cases like when I recently went without internet for 17 days.

Steam is cheap, consumer friendly and, just as importantly; developer friendly.

Steam works on all kinds of hardware and is even available on Mac (even though Mac is crap to game on).

Steam is free, there's no subscription fee to access the full service nor does it cost money to play online (with extremely few exceptions).

Valve are the masters of the universe. That is all.

it is true. when you buy a four pack or gift, you are still purchasing every copy. You just aren't using them yourselves. the xbox one allows you to buy one digital version, and allows up to ten family members to play it, as well as your self, and also allows you to sell your game once you have played it, or to give it away to a friend (once), so in that regards it does best steam. I agree with the rest of what you said. Except maybe vavle are the masters of the universe, if MS does this right and has good deals and sales, steam could take a big hit. I also wonder how the news of the xbox one will effect the steam box.



Simulacrum on 07 June 2013

Well, to me Steam is just something like on consoles, installation from disc.I buy Alan Wake disc, I install it to steam, now I can feed my disc to my dog and game will never be unavailable for me.
Actually I guess I could sell the game somehow.



 

 

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PullusPardus on 07 June 2013
disolitude said:
Both services require internet to activate and are very similar apart from these things:


- Steam does not allow for game sharing with family, giving to "a friend" or re-selling (digital or retail). Whatever you buy, is tied to your Steam account forever and ever. Xbox One supposedly does allow for this.


Yes you can, one online and one offline can play the same game on the same account.

also the internet is free.



disolitude on 07 June 2013
PullusPardus said:
disolitude said:
Both services require internet to activate and are very similar apart from these things:


- Steam does not allow for game sharing with family, giving to "a friend" or re-selling (digital or retail). Whatever you buy, is tied to your Steam account forever and ever. Xbox One supposedly does allow for this.


Yes you can, one online and one offline can play the same game on the same account.

also the internet is free.

lol...thats called finding a loophole in the system. Also known as human nature... Also the reason why Xbox is checking in ever 24 hours. 



disolitude on 07 June 2013
Mummelmann said:
disolitude said:
Both services require internet to activate and are very similar apart from these things:

- Steam does not need a check in every 24 hours. Once you install a game fully, you can play it offline. Unless you start a game update and don't finish it...in which case you can't play that game at all till you finish the update.

- Steam does not allow for game sharing with family, giving to "a friend" or re-selling (digital or retail). Whatever you buy, is tied to your Steam account forever and ever. Xbox One supposedly does allow for this.


The bottom one is not true, Steam allows you to purchase gifts and even "4 packs" at a large discount to share with friends. On the One, your game is tied to your Live account in the same way that a Steam title you purchase for yourself, so they're both for sharing with the family in a restricted manner. The One prohibits giving games to a friend and allows a resale only through Azure.

Other differences;

As mentioned, Steam has an offline mode and your games still function even without a connection, this is handy in cases like when I recently went without internet for 17 days.

Steam is cheap, consumer friendly and, just as importantly; developer friendly.

Steam works on all kinds of hardware and is even available on Mac (even though Mac is crap to game on).

Steam is free, there's no subscription fee to access the full service nor does it cost money to play online (with extremely few exceptions).

Valve are the masters of the universe. That is all.

I'd love to see Valve subsidize and push its own hardware being able to run all Steam games and sellit for 299-399. Wonder how cheap they would be then...