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Soleron said:
Mr Puggsly said:
Would people complain this much if the Xbox One just went all digital?

The discs just save time compared to downloading games.

All Digital is EXACTLY WHAT MICROSOFT WANTS. No used games, automatic DRM, AND the Steam Aura Of Invincibility on bad press related to those two.

I agree, MS wants all digital and we all know this is a direction the industry has been going.

I doubt Sony is opposed to going all digital. Remember the PSP Go?



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Mr Puggsly said:
Soleron said:
Mr Puggsly said:
Would people complain this much if the Xbox One just went all digital?

The discs just save time compared to downloading games.

All Digital is EXACTLY WHAT MICROSOFT WANTS. No used games, automatic DRM, AND the Steam Aura Of Invincibility on bad press related to those two.

I agree, MS wants all digital and we all know this is a direction the industry has been going.

I doubt Sony is opposed to going all digital. Remember the PSP Go?

Remember how hard this thing bombed? I think they learned their lesson.



badgenome said:
A hearty "fuck you" to mom and pop game stores, private sellers, and generally anyone who thinks he owns his property.


This. Trading in is only a very small part of the problem, like alot of people when i sell i do it privatley on EBAY for maximum profit and when i lend a game to my friends it just works 



That's not the problem.

Question is..how will MS take a cut? There has to be a system in place that allows the boarding and unboarding of games to be played on different consoles.

Conclusion:

Your friend that wants to borrow your copy of the game or you want to borrow his is not possible!



Cant believe Some people defending this DRM just cos they love XBox, its truly crazy.

And no its not illegal to lend a film or game you've bought to a friend, no matter what a license agreement may say. They have no legal right to stop any private use of products you have bought including watching it with friends or letting them borrow it.

How do we know these license agreements hold no water for private sale or private lending, because if they did then you wouldn't be allowed to trade them in at shops in the first place!!



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kowenicki said:
Carl2291 said:
Jazz2K said:

You can do it no? The thing is that your friend will need to activate the full game by paying a fee if I remember correctly and when he does so your game will not be playable anymore on your console...


Link?

The only rumors Ive seen are the ones about them taking the cut from a retailer. The retailer (GameStop, for example), sorts it all out, thus they are needed.

If I can sell my game to a friend and he only has to activate it then its not as bad. I guess that depends on the price of activation. It still sounds beyond sleazy though.

Id at least like to be able to sell my games to friends. Not being able to just lend them out is shitty, but meh.


You know it is technically illegal to lend games and movies to your mates already right? 

No it's not, unless the EULA states otherwise.



I'm pretty sure that if your disc breaks you have to buy a new copy of the game. The whole "it's a license, not a good... unless we want it to be" thing is bullshit.



kowenicki said:
Carl2291 said:
kowenicki said:

You know it is technically illegal to lend games and movies to your mates already right? 

All that post needed was a "reported". Would have been golden.

Expect a knock on your door....  Sony pictures will be pissed when I tell them. 

Luckily I can close the door on them, because it's perfectly legal for me to own downloaded copies or loaned media.

With physical copies, you own the disc and the box. You can do with it whatever you want, almost literally, no matter what any company tries to enforce. There is one exception; You don't own the data on these discs an buy a license to use it (in which you were correct) along with the ownership of medium. Which means you're not allowed to distribute the data for personal gain. This applies to every form of media; whether it be music, film or software. It's also including books, just replace 'disc and box' with 'paper' and 'data' with 'text'. Software in particular has an exeption though, it's not allowed to own a copy of any type of software. For whatever reason this is different from film and music.

This is European regulation though, don't know what the rules are elsewhere.



Leadified said:
kowenicki said:
Carl2291 said:
Jazz2K said:

You can do it no? The thing is that your friend will need to activate the full game by paying a fee if I remember correctly and when he does so your game will not be playable anymore on your console...


Link?

The only rumors Ive seen are the ones about them taking the cut from a retailer. The retailer (GameStop, for example), sorts it all out, thus they are needed.

If I can sell my game to a friend and he only has to activate it then its not as bad. I guess that depends on the price of activation. It still sounds beyond sleazy though.

Id at least like to be able to sell my games to friends. Not being able to just lend them out is shitty, but meh.


You know it is technically illegal to lend games and movies to your mates already right? 

No it's not, unless the EULA states otherwise.

I'm from Europe, the EULA isn't worth a damn here XD



kowenicki said:
Leadified said:
kowenicki said:
Carl2291 said:
Jazz2K said:

You can do it no? The thing is that your friend will need to activate the full game by paying a fee if I remember correctly and when he does so your game will not be playable anymore on your console...


Link?

The only rumors Ive seen are the ones about them taking the cut from a retailer. The retailer (GameStop, for example), sorts it all out, thus they are needed.

If I can sell my game to a friend and he only has to activate it then its not as bad. I guess that depends on the price of activation. It still sounds beyond sleazy though.

Id at least like to be able to sell my games to friends. Not being able to just lend them out is shitty, but meh.


You know it is technically illegal to lend games and movies to your mates already right? 

No it's not, unless the EULA states otherwise.

well of course.

Dont be daft its not illegal in the slightest certainly in Europe, your consumer rights cant be overwritten by a peice of paper inside a box that you cant even read till after youve bought it