hopefully one barrier down...but what's with all this authentication? do MS really fear priates that much? I know the 360 was rampant but titles sold amazingly well...I know MS(and probaly Sony) are trying to save profit for themselves and their 1st/3rd party devs, but potentially eliminating a good portion of your install base is risky...

The used games market will NOT be OK after this. As far as I understand it currently, there's a few 'licenced' stores where you can take your game without any extra fees but try to sell your game through some other route (for example, directly to the buyes) and suddenly there's a huge activation fee. This ought to pretty much kill the used games market outside those licensed stores, and then those licensed stores can overprices their used games as high as they want (the obvious limiting factor being, of course, the price of a similar new game). I'd say it's very customer-hostile.

As for DRM (well, the check-in part of it at least), this is much worse than Steam. In fact, it's one of the worst DRM systems out there. The only worse system, I think, is the always-online one. Most others are just a check-in during activation and that's it but this is very close to always-online DRM. There's pretty much no way in practice how you could have a connection once every 24 hours without having it all the time. You're reliant on having that internet connection, whereas with most DRM's you're not. And I'm not saying this is the same as always-online either, it's just very close. The difference is that you can have some moments where you lose your connection... But that's it. In practice, this console must always be connected to the internet.

http://thepiratebay.sx/torrent/6774609/Uncharted_3_PS3-DUPLEX

When I have bought a game and played, for currently a steep 60 euros, I´d like to get as a return a market conform value.
As it is now with the trade-ins we are already getting screwed. This new way of trade for used games only sets us consumers back.
I deal through Ebay and other online sources for a personal sale, which is my right as the owner of the game.

The only way this will work for me is when basic prices of games will go down a lot. At that point their value will stay the same for a long time and thus can Microsoft ask for something close to the normal retail price for used games.

Other then that, consumers are getting screwed big time and console manufacturers and game companies WILL notice. In this day and age, current economics, a still deteriorating economy, people keeping their hands on their wallets... it's a no go.

Polygon = Arthur Gies

No more to say.

Why is this bad? Others than the selected retailers can just install the game on their One and that will cause the game to be "untied" from any previous account. It will just work like this gen, only that an internet connection is regularly needed.

You think taking the power out of the gamers hands and putting it into corporations isnt a bad thing?

We have the power to lend and resell games now, and we will still have it next-gen... 

Lend games and login information since its tied to your account. Sorry, no thanks. You have the power to reselll at ms approved store and have them control the price.

MS has not said anything contrary to these reports

Polygon eh? Aren't they the ones who defended Simcity for a while and gave them a 9.5?

No wonder then.

Yeah this is bullcrap. They knew EA and M$ were in bed so they defended the DRM thing beforehand before MS went out and said this was going to happen.