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the_dengle said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


He doesnt have his own channel. We don't know how well he'd do on his own. He would probably do very well.

But he does have his own video, a video that has attracted far fewer views than the Nintendo Directs you lambast for not attracting a large enough audience, while you claim that he is a very influential and important figure in games journalism. I just find that ironic.

Almost as ironic as I find your use of comparisons to children's videos as a way to demean Nintendo, while literally every single video on YouTube sans one has fewer hits than a child. Every Sony-, Microsoft-, and Nintendo-related video on YouTube combined probably don't beat the views on that one video.

I compared Nintendos views to a child because they have an official page with logged movies. Adam doesnt. He makes guess appearances on a channel.



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S.T.A.G.E. said:

I compared Nintendos views to a child because they have an official page with logged movies. Adam doesnt. He makes guess appearances on a channel.

If you were making any sense to begin with, you've stopped. What does any of that have to do with children on YouTube?



S.T.A.G.E. said:
the_dengle said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


He doesnt have his own channel. We don't know how well he'd do on his own. He would probably do very well.

But he does have his own video, a video that has attracted far fewer views than the Nintendo Directs you lambast for not attracting a large enough audience, while you claim that he is a very influential and important figure in games journalism. I just find that ironic.

Almost as ironic as I find your use of comparisons to children's videos as a way to demean Nintendo, while literally every single video on YouTube sans one has fewer hits than a child. Every Sony-, Microsoft-, and Nintendo-related video on YouTube combined probably don't beat the views on that one video.

I compared Nintendos views to a child because they have an official page with logged movies. Adam doesnt. He makes guess appearances on a channe

 

Stop.

Just stop.



"but the mainstream media won't talk about it without a conference even when nintendo is still present with a booth and media rooms for those media guys"

well, even if that would be true, every ad for any nintendo game on tv will be seen by many more people as a short coverage of the conference on the same channel. will people buy a wii u because they saw a small report about the e3? or will they buy one if they see advertisement for games they are interested in?

and if nintendo will upload some nintendo direct stuff on youtube or if there will be a conference to watch won't change anything for the internet media, it's just important that they will show game trailers and so on...



Adam Sessler responds to Valve and 2K for not having a press conference at E3.



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Nsanity said:
Adam Sessler responds to Valve and 2K for not having a press conference at E3.


2K maybe. But some people act like Valve ever had a strong presence at E3... -__-



Fusioncode said:
JazzB1987 said:
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JazzB1987 said:
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BluGamer23 said:

Nintendo is one of the worst when it comes to evolving with their franchises. NSMB has released the exact same game 4 times, Zelda, Mario Kart, and Pokemon haven't evolved in the slightest since their inception. Oh and comparing Uncharted to Tomb Raider and God of War to DMC? You clearly have not played those games or else you wouldn't making such ridiculous statements. Your whole logic is ridiculous, old school games are better simply because they're old? That's why Nintendo games aren't evolving, because their fanboys get upset if even the slightest change is made to a 20 year old franchise. Maybe you're right. In fact let's go back even more, screw home console, let's just have arcade machines that charge us 50$ in quarters when we want to finish one game. The older the better right? 

 
You whole comment makes no sense to me

I know that this reply will look like a fanboy reply to you but since I own Sony and Microsoft consoles and play their games I actually know what I am talking about its not. I see it in all  objectivity.

I mean I could whine at least 1 hour about whats wrong with Twilight Princess or Skyward sword and what they could do better.  (no more ugly chicken people with boobs please, more holes in the ground like in the past MORE to explore in general please! no empty world like in TP please and not skyloft area thats basically a MENU screen like in NSMB  with "3 levels" to chose from. I want a connected world please!!!!!! I could go on and on etc!!!" 

Mario Galaxy  has crappy controls that sometimes get inverted as soon as you let go of the analog stick while you are running upside down on planet-like object etc etc etc...
Why does Nintendo remove maps in every Mario Kart game? And why do they remove battle modes? Why is there no Gamecube bomb battle in Mario Kart Wii?   Why do Smash Brawl and Mario Kart Wii have this shitty time limit when you want to play online?  Chose level 20 seconds,  chose character 10 seconds  WTF?!?  So There is a ton of stuff I could complain about. Why are VC games so overpriced 5 euros (6,5?  dollars was 7 in the past) for a NES game really???

NOW TO MY ACTUAL REPLY

Nintendo franchises do evolve and thank you for using my "dont lookt at NSMB"  its 1 series. How is GOW any different from GOW2?  Its negligible differences same goes for NSMB series well at least part 1 on DS was single player and the second one on Wii already had 4 player coop thats a bigger change than any GOW game had compared to its predecessor.

Mario went from a 2 player arcade game to a game that basically made the jump&run genre  to a game that defined how 3d games should work. To a game that takes place in space and is up side down inside out etc. YOU seem to have no idea at all.

Zelda  evolved and especially comes up with different art styles almost every time. And gameplay wise? How is Zelda 1 the same as OOT which invented lock on and day/night cycles etc?  and how are the DS games the same as Majoras Mask? Only outsiders think they are the same games.

Mario kart
did evolve racing and came up with the fun racers. It made vehicular battling popular  came up with 2-players on 1 kart on GameCube or  flying around with kites on  and driving underwater in 3DS it allowed you to drive bikes on Wii etc.  THIS IS evolving.  In Gran Turismo I can drive with 2011's Mercedes compared to 2008's Mercedes in  the old Gran Turismo  WOW!

There is not much you can do with a racing game especially when its as good as Mario Kart and already includes multiplayer  time trails  battles etc items. What do you expect lol? Driving 3 rounds and then ending up on a table top game and then having Mario Kart Party? And then battling Bowser as the endboss Mario 3D style while still being in the Kart? lol

Pokemon also evolved it allowed you to take Pokemon with you on the small tamagotchi style thing so you could find other pokemon and train yours while not even using the DS.

Pokemon Black/White 2
There is an area in the game called Join Avenue. "The person who runs the place is apparently in over his head, and has asked you to take over as manager and help bring the building to life by populating it with merchants and customers. You do this by inviting people you’ve battled against, traded with or met via Tag Mode to join in on your little social experiment. The more people you meet the livelier the place will become, and the more you’ll be able to upgrade the variety of shops that pop up, which sell all manner of cool items you can’t get anywhere else in the game."

"In PokeStar Studios you make shoot short movies with your favorite Monsters"   There also is the Pokemon World Tournament  where there is constantly a Tournament where you can participate and fight almost every Pokemon-Trainer you met in previous games.  The pokedex has the HABITATE FEATURE etc.  There is tons of new stuff in the newest Pokemon. Even some older games had new featuers like  4 Trainer Battles etc.

How is this not different from old Pokemon games? You never played the new ones enough to even understand what they are about.

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And if you see no similarities between  Devil May Cry and God of War   or Tomb Raider and Uncharted   then I am sorry noone on earth can help you. I OWN all 3 Uncharted games I also own several  GOW games including 3.  BTW I am not talking about DMC I am talking about the old PS2 games (never played the new DMC game)

This part here " Maybe you're right. In fact let's go back even more, screw home console, let's just have arcade machines that charge us 50$ in quarters when we want to finish one game. The older the better right? "    Seriously? Why do you reply for the sake of replying? Dont just type random stuff that makes no sense lol because you are bored etc.

I was talking about the feeling older games have.  That just a few modern games have.  I know that alot of people put alot of effort into stuff like Battlefield 3 or Uncharted etc  but those games feel totally flat.  (I am talking about the single player aspects of those games)  Games like Fire Emblem awakening  (got it 4 days ago and already played 40 hours!!!) still have that charme, even Skyrim with all its flaws and crappy menu (because of being a shitty console port for a PC) somewhat has it. Thats why its one of the few PC games I  played like an addict.

I am still not able to explain that feeling but they feel like   there was effort put into them  they make you feel comfortable etc. This has nothing to do with bullshit like going back to arcades lol   the arcades were mostly before the "glorious age".   I am talking about games like Final Fantasy 7 etc.

Alot of games were alot better back in the day.  Command&Conquer became shit.  The first 2 Age of Empires games were the best. Also good were Empires DMW and Empire Earth  but Empire Earth 2 and 3 were crap too.  It is a bit like in the movie industry  when the idea of creating something cool gets replaced with just releasing stuff for the sake of releasing it and making money. 

I mean just look at all those average games we have this generation  and not that they are just average games they suffer from stupid bugs which wouldnt be that much of a problem when they game would be good to begin with (because of time pressure and publishers giving a fück about quality) and then even games like Castlevania  have 14 FPS at times?  Seriously 14 FPS?????  That sould be illegal!

Games get shorter and shorter  are sold unfinished with DLC etc etc.   Almost all games somewhat lost the actual Value.  The whole industry changed from creating entertaining and fun games while earning money to earning money and maybe creating something useful by coincidence. Some companies have the old mentality and you can see this in their games (Bioware is one of those but they are changing right now)  And their games give me that "old" feeling  it has nothing to do with old gameplay or no evolution or time period it has something to do with the feel you get when you play a game. Again  XENOBLADE does not feel old despite its graphics and this game does have that special feeling. 
Perfect Dark on N64 had that feeling etc because RARE knew what they were doing.  Metroid Prime had that feeling  Other M had NOT! And guess what it was not made by an "old mentality" company.

Again I dont know how to explain that  but maybe its something you feel when you invested alot of time and put alot of effort in playing games for decades. I mean there is people that drink wine every evening for 20 years and then there is people that  do the exact same thing but also really care about wine and want to find out the little nuances that make every wine special.

Maybe I am one of the later people and most players today are just  consuming games instead of "experiencing, living" them.




Sensei said:

Nintendo probably embarassed to put Wii U up against PS4 and X720.

Hell Wii U pales even in comparison to PS3 and 360 when it comes to getting multiplats.


Your well thought out and excellently worded post has convinced me that what I mistook for joy while playing on the Wii U is indeed PS4 and X720 envy. I have decided to immidiately sell my gaming system and will hopefully be able to afford and be lucky enough pick up a superior platform in the future.

Thank you for your insight.



Bong Lover said:
Sensei said:

Nintendo probably embarassed to put Wii U up against PS4 and X720.

Hell Wii U pales even in comparison to PS3 and 360 when it comes to getting multiplats.


Your well thought out and excellently worded post has convinced me that what I mistook for joy while playing on the Wii U is indeed PS4 and X720 envy. I have decided to immidiately sell my gaming system and will hopefully be able to afford and be lucky enough pick up a superior platform in the future.

Thank you for your insight.

To be fair though, it does seem like Nintendo won't have much to show for E3. Iwata did say (a few days ago, if my memory serves me right) that they were behind schedule on many of their AAA outings for the Wii U. Iwata did address some of the concerns people have right now about the system.

So it is true, if we follow what Iwata said, that Nintendo don't have enough to go against the freshness that will be the PS4 and NexBox at E3. The attention will be centered around those 2, that's for sure. Nintendo's turn will most likely come at a later date. Who knows, maybe they'll have a Nintendo World event later on this year. To unveil the next 3D Mario, Zelda (doubtful, because of Wind Waker HD), but hopefully the next Metroid (a personal favourite).

I will also comment on the idea that Nintendo's franchises don't evolve... Most franchises evolve over time. But they're not going to re-invent the wheel everytime they make a sequel. People expect a certain type of gameplay when they get a 3D Mario game, or a Zelda game. That's the same with any franchise for any console. God of War, Uncharted, Fable, etc... They all have to stick to their own working formula, because that's what people expect from them. Condemning Zelda for it, while praising most other franchises is utterly hypocritical at best.



Why have a press conference or waste money on making a big flashy one when people go gaga over your isht anyway?

They aren't going to be showcasing new hardware, so all the press conference would do would be announcing new games, which they can do via Nintendo Directs or any other method at their disposal. Nintendo probably doesn't want to waste money and this is a means to a legit end. People/media, that are used to pitting the press conferences as selling points, are blowing this out of proportion and trying to make a bigger deal out of something that really isn't. It breaks tradition but the only people that suffer are the media and E3 promotors, because it lessens their ability to sell E3 as a major event when one of the biggest hardware producers decide they aren't going to go full steam at it.