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Ronster316 on 14 April 2013

How on god's green........ does this twonk stll have a job as a video game analyst?



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DietSoap on 14 April 2013
Xxain said:
Everybody should be agreeing with Patcher. I dont get them either. We have tons of great Japanese developers with With great global brand legacy creating these Japan focused anime fetish games. When their not developing these Japan focused anime fetish games they're letting other developers ruin their IP's and damage their reputation, Not localizing anything, forgetting they have a vast amout of dormant IP's, taking centuries to actually complete projects, just general sitting on their asses as they let west pull the wool over everybodies eyes and claim false innovation. Japan is a mess because they have forgotten how to create global games.

Great post, saved me the trouble of saying a lot of this.

 

Japan, at least so far as I'm concerned, has far and away the best talent in the industry and the best IPs. The fact that seemingly every game of serious promise, or the fact that every game that seems to get IT when it comes to game design and what players want (often in ways players can't yet articulate) tends to be SERIOUSLY undermarketed and underfunded points to a very serious managerial problem.

They've gotten so scared of taking charge and doing what they do best, and instead cling and use what little they are willing to invest into garbage western imitations.



theRepublic on 14 April 2013
NightDragon83 said:

[...]There are plenty of innovative games I've enjoyed over the past generation or so that weren't AAA Hollywood blockbusters, such as Portal 1 & 2, Braid, Minecraft, Scribblenauts, etc.

[...]

Or even the latest Mario, or Zelda?  How come no developers are rushing out to copy them these days?[...]

Yeah, I see tons of copies of these games.  Oh wait, no I don't.  Each game is innovative, but no one is jumping to copy any of these games either.

Galaxy and Skyward Sword not innovative?  I'll just say I disagree and leave it at that.



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Kaizar on 14 April 2013
DietSoap said:
Xxain said:
Everybody should be agreeing with Patcher. I dont get them either. We have tons of great Japanese developers with With great global brand legacy creating these Japan focused anime fetish games. When their not developing these Japan focused anime fetish games they're letting other developers ruin their IP's and damage their reputation, Not localizing anything, forgetting they have a vast amout of dormant IP's, taking centuries to actually complete projects, just general sitting on their asses as they let west pull the wool over everybodies eyes and claim false innovation. Japan is a mess because they have forgotten how to create global games.

Great post, saved me the trouble of saying a lot of this.

 

Japan, at least so far as I'm concerned, has far and away the best talent in the industry and the best IPs. The fact that seemingly every game of serious promise, or the fact that every game that seems to get IT when it comes to game design and what players want (often in ways players can't yet articulate) tends to be SERIOUSLY undermarketed and underfunded points to a very serious managerial problem.

They've gotten so scared of taking charge and doing what they do best, and instead cling and use what little they are willing to invest into garbage western imitations.


Xxain comment would have been true if this was before 2013.

Well, I am going to play Project X Zone limited edition & Code of Princess & Bravely Default: Flying Fairy & Fantasy Life & Kersploosh! & Denpa Men 2 & so much more.



benji232 on 14 April 2013
theRepublic said:
NightDragon83 said:

[...]There are plenty of innovative games I've enjoyed over the past generation or so that weren't AAA Hollywood blockbusters, such as Portal 1 & 2, Braid, Minecraft, Scribblenauts, etc.

[...]

Or even the latest Mario, or Zelda?  How come no developers are rushing out to copy them these days?[...]

Yeah, I see tons of copies of these games.  Oh wait, no I don't.  Each game is innovative, but no one is jumping to copy any of these games either.

Galaxy and Skyward Sword not innovative?  I'll just say I disagree and leave it at that.

This. 

If anyone tells me with a straight face that galaxy (both of them) and skyward sword aren't innovative, then I have no clue what innovation means to you.



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reviniente on 14 April 2013

Innovation for the sake of being new and different is a waste of time and effort. I would argue that the most memorable games are the ones that are the most fun. To the arithmetically challenged user, 2/3 > 1/2.



kitler53 on 14 April 2013
Nem said:

To be honest i dont get them either, and they often piss me off for not bringing their games to the west. If not only to build a fanbase and relationship with the customer. Its beyond me, but probably because they are Japanese, that they dont realise this. The less games that get released, the few costumers they will enter a relationship with. In short, they really have no clue about business. I dunno what they teach on those Japanese management universities.

I know that in the case of square and FF7 it was Wada that was stubburn. I'm pretty sure they will do it under the new management.

there was a really good article posted in the vita thread a few months back about why many japonese games don't get ported west.  it was really interesting and really highlighted why many games can't leave japan.



DietSoap on 14 April 2013
kitler53 said:
Nem said:

To be honest i dont get them either, and they often piss me off for not bringing their games to the west. If not only to build a fanbase and relationship with the customer. Its beyond me, but probably because they are Japanese, that they dont realise this. The less games that get released, the few costumers they will enter a relationship with. In short, they really have no clue about business. I dunno what they teach on those Japanese management universities.

I know that in the case of square and FF7 it was Wada that was stubburn. I'm pretty sure they will do it under the new management.

there was a really good article posted in the vita thread a few months back about why many japonese games don't get ported west.  it was really interesting and really highlighted why many games can't leave japan.

What Vita thread is this?



hikaruchan on 14 April 2013
Fusioncode said:

The problem isn't with Japanese developers, it's with the gamers. They only seem to want the same games over and over again. Whenever something new and interesting comes out, (that isn't some strange hentai title) it gets completely ignored in favor of the 27th Dragon Quest or the 3rd rerelease of a Monster Hunter game that came out 4 years ago.

I don't think you realy know what hentai is.



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Kaizar on 15 April 2013
hikaruchan said:
Fusioncode said:

The problem isn't with Japanese developers, it's with the gamers. They only seem to want the same games over and over again. Whenever something new and interesting comes out, (that isn't some strange hentai title) it gets completely ignored in favor of the 27th Dragon Quest or the 3rd rerelease of a Monster Hunter game that came out 4 years ago.

I don't think you realy know what hentai is.


LOL.

Fusioncode clearly doesn't know what Hentai is. Each series only has like an average of 3 episodes. and each series is completely different from all the others.

Plus it's adults only.

I just can't help but LOL at fusioncode comment.