I loved Heavenly Sword, and from what I have played DmC is actually a stellar title. NT's problem isn't really their games, yet the bad air around THEM. They have left a bad taste in gamer's mouths with their post statements about HS, which to this day is their highest selling, most respected title. I will pick up DmC, but much later on down the line, as every time I look at it I think of their smug faces.

They are extremely stubborn when it comes to criticisms, and are borderline narcissistic with their unique view that everything they do is perfect regardless of protest. It appears that as long as people know it is Ninja Theory, the sales might be doomed to failure. They need to possibly disband and create a new company, or maybe get back into the good graces of gamers and make our damn HS2 without the wining about "It didn't sell as much as we wanted, we made no money". I find it super hard to believe they made less on HS than Enslaved or DmC.

Capcom: Why the hell does Dante need a reboot anyway? Baffled how they kept sabotaging this series from day one. The first one was really well recieved. Second, not so much but its because they replaced Cynical and smart ass Dante with a new Brooding Dante. It also has one of the worst side characters EVER in Lucia. Still was enjoyable for many, and we were still right there for DMC3. DMC3 was nothing short of amazing. It was right back to original form with some new blood injected in it. Loved it.

Then comes DMC4, they decide to ditch original Dante....again, for some new kid.....who just so happens to look JUST LIKE HIM! WHY!?! It was such a stupid plot device to go along with a stupider story. In a DMC game people only want to play with 3 people really: Dante, Virgil, Trish/Lady. Everyone else, fall back. DMC4's gameplay wasn't bad either, if only a tad slow. Capcom coveted what God of War has tho with their unique grappling gameplay (actually I realize every action game now has some sort of chain grab :/ )

Stop it Capcom, just stop it. Let Dante be who he started as, 20s something dick in a box where he gets to dice up enemies in over the top ways with a variety of weapons while traveling through some gothic landscape. DmC isn't a afront to this recipe tho. It actually stays pretty consistant minus the Dante design and retooling of the story(which turns out better).

DMC4 sold 3 mil - you call that "not doing good"? Well now they pissed the fanbase and won't even get close to 1 mil with the reboot, so we know just how bad their move was.

So it may be a good Hack 'n' Slash game, but it's not a DMC game, that's why it sold like other good HnS games did this gen and not like a DMC game. Why do you expect the DMC fanbase to buy any single game that crapcom slaps the DMC sticker on? Also, why support something you don't want? The fans show what they want - they want true DMC, they want the "gay" Dante. Every single classic DMC game sold 3-4 mil, no matter if it was good or bad - you call that a bad fanbase? They just don't want this wanna-be Dante, they don't want to see how he evolves and don't want a sequel with him. It's similar to MGS2 - nobody wants another MGS game about Raiden and without Snake. Return to old roots, to old Dante, give fans what they want, apologise and be thankful for the lesson.

More or less seems like the stiatuion to me as well.

If you take the fanbase that for a Video game genre that has had a bit of a decline then piss off a decent size of that fanbase you better make sure the new people that your trying to appeal and those you have converted are enough to justify and support it going forward.Now I dont know how many old school dmc fans were converted and liked the game or how many new fan the series aquired with this game but it certainly does not look like it was enough.I think the problem going forward regardless of if we get dmc5 or dmc2 is that they as in CAPCOM my have split a fanbase and neither side may be able to support this series.

This whole saga for me has never ever been about the game it has been about how Capcom, Ninja Thoery , and the fans old and new handled this whole thing.

Talk for yourself, MGS2 is still the best game in the series and Raiden was crucial in it.

Hahahaha nothing of what you wrote made any sense but I do love the way you cry A203D please never stop crying.

I've never been a fan of the DMC series, but I don't see how people can call a loyal fan base disloyal, for not buying a game that wasn't meant for them. DMC fans were pretty consistent with the franchise considering the second game was terrible, and the third game had two versions in the same year (and fans bought both).

They where always vagabonds they started out as Just Add Monsters and the first game they developed was Kung Fu Chaos for the original X-Box.

Ninja Theory was always a vagabond developer they started out as Just Add Monsters and the first game they developed was Kung Fu Chaos for the original X-Box.

Wasn't Kung Fu Chaos an Xbox exclusive?

So again: they were exclusive developers (first on Xbox; then on PS3) who went multi-platform.  Point I made still stands.

It just turns out that their PS3 exclusive had a bit more weight thrown behind it than their Xbox exclusive; and that STILL wasn't enough.