Im not even a huge DMC fan but I love the style of Hack N Slash as a genre which is why I always support it (God of War, Bayonetta, MGR, DMC...yes..I support them all). Hack N Slash fans should support, but there are the nerdy otaku like fans who throw a fit at the first sign of change (especially if it goes from Japanese to western). At this stage it doesnt matter whether you buy it or not and I heard at GDC Ninja Theory displayed how unhappy they were with the turnout. MGR in story, gameplay and extras wasn't half the game and ultimately will probably sell twice the amount LTD. 

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You're right they don't owe Capcom or NT anything. They have no opinion and can bitch and moan at nothing until the sun comes up.

First of i haven't boughtnhe game (yet).

The problem with DmC is that it isnt a DmC game anymore (at least visually) and dante dosen't really feel like dante anymore.
That doesn't mean the game is bad but personally i feel a bit dissapointed with the game because i was somehow attatched to dante and thought he was cool. Now Capcom and NT decides to throw everything that i feel attatched to in a series out of the window how can you blame me for not buying the game?
Well they might not exactly have thrown all of dmc out but the trailers certainly made it look like it.

Again i'm not saying it's a bad game but to me (and probably to many dmc fans) it isn't a dmc and you cant blame them for not buying it.
I am gonna get the game eventually since i like hack and slash and the demo was decent, but not full price (i only buy my favourite francise full price plus capcom isn't really on my "to support" list. At least not until they can get out a decent vita game).

1) You dont know if its a bad game.

2) Its actually a coming of age title where Dante becomes who he is meant to be. Its actually giving him a proper storyline.

1) I don't know if it's a bad game and i never said it was.

2) Maby i wouldn't know i haven't played the game

I was just trying to say that the material i saw of the game didn't make it look like a dmc game to me and thus didn't put me in a rush to buy the game.
You know i actually think the new dante looks sort of cool and he is actually my main in PSAS:BR  and the game is on my to buy list. I just think they could have slapped a different name on the game and nobody would notice it was a dmc*.  So i don't blame dmc fans for not buying it. (I'm not saying it gives them an excuse to act like whiny bitches though).

*Yes i know i havent played the game it's just the feel i got from what i saw. 

I've been reading through most of the thread and I honestly thing we haven't thought about this issue properly. This is what I'm talking about:

DMC4 week 1 sales: http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/39481/Global/

DmC week 1 sales: http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/41294/Global/

So I'm not talking about week one sales for those games. But all those games released at the same time. DMC4 was released under very faviourable conditions at the beginning of the console generation. If we look at DmC's week one sales, every game in the chart has seen declines. Its nothing to do with anti-DmC fans. Its to do with the end of console cycle sales. Software sales are down year on year. That time period when DMC4 was released was mostly alongside Wii titles, theres so much more competition now for DmC, so it was not the same marketing circumstances.

Capcom really made a mistake of releasing DmC now, my opinion is they shouldve waited to release DmC as a PS4/720/Wii U launch title. I don't think it was a good idea to release a reboot now, especially if Capcom wern't prepared to market the game properly.

Regarding what you said about Metacritic user scores. Thats actually easily disprovable. Because anyone can create an account and make a fake review. How to you learn the truth?

Answer: On the PSN store you have to buy the game before you can leave a review score for the game. I'm not sure about Xbox Live, but in the case of DmC on the PSN, (digital sales), DmC has been among one of the top 10 rated games since January. You know that the PSN review scores are trustworthy because those consumers have to pay for the game to be able to leave a review score. In the case of Amazon, or Metacritic, we can see a lot of people who don't have Amazon's 'confirmed purchase' and thus don't know whether they've bought the game or not. In the case of PSN we see the truth.

I'm not sure if they will make a sequel. But we only have PS3/Xbox sales, we don't have digital sales, PC or Steam sales. That being said DmC is not really Ninja Theory's game, if they don't do a sequel it dosen't matter. They will continue to make great games with the skills they learned from Capcom. Its not that bad either way.

Ninja thoery are no saints, sorry to say. I like them, and im sure they will manage to develop something else, but the way they handled DMC was a mistake. They didnt try to please the fans, they defied them openly and showed them the middle finger. Cmon, did you forget the pizza joke and the way dante looked initially to be exactly like antoniades hair style? They are no saints, the outcome was as much good as it was bad, but it was because they confronted.

Fans really have no losses here, because that wasnt the DMC they wanted anyways.

Now you know why DMC fans don't accept 'your' truth. What I'm more interested in is why Hideaki Itsuno and Capcom Japan have said the gameplay for DmC is an improvement over previous games; so are you calling Capcom Japan and Hideaki Itsuno liars? Or is it that your simply another DMC4 fan?

DMC4's problem is that it wasn't a true DMC game at all. In fact thats been the problem with every DMC game since DMC1. There are not true successors to DMC1. DMC4 was possibilly the worst game in the series; it was so far from DMC1 I didn't see anything good left in the series except for combat.

Development time was cut short? What so they still had time to make two hours of cringworthy cutscenes? Which is more than that of DmC.

Cutscenes that involved newcomers Nero and Kyrie in a form of Twilight romance? Cutscenes that involved turning Trish and Lady into Playboy fan service? Cutscenes that involved turning Dante into a riduclously camp cowboy, complete with red cowboy boots?

Maybe if Capcom didn't spend so much time making cutscenes they could've improved the gameplay, which (DMC4) has been completely trumped by Bayonetta. Even DmC isn't as good as Bayonetta, but it still does a lot of things really well. Besides Capcom Japan and Hideaki Itsuno were heavily involved in development, your not just criticising Ninja Theory, your criticising the developers of DMC4. If you knew more than Hideaki Itsuno about DMC, I think we would know about it.

Capcom was expecting two million. They cut their forecast down to 1.2 million and they are definitely not getting that. Even Revengeance can achieve those sales as a new IP. Look at metacritics user averages, terrible. Those are fan inflicted wounds on the post launch.

Its possible, but still, if we looks at Revengence's sales. The reason the PS3 version has sold more than DmC is because of what triple/quadruple sales in the Japanese region. American and European sales are not that far apart from DmC.

Revengence has sold about the same on the 360 as DmC, and Revengence is coming from a biigger franchise which is the Metal Gear series. I think its more to do with timing; sales are down year on year; God of War Ascension has opened with half the number of sales as Gof of War 3;  according to Square Enix Tomb Raider wasn't successful as they expected. Theres probably other games I haven't thought of, but my point is it was just a bad time to release this game.

Whatever the case, I think Ninja Theory might be working on Heavenly Sword 2; Tameem Antoniades did mention something for Sony's PS4 conference, and Ninja Theory have been shown to be a third party developer for the PS4. So I think Ninja Thoery have moved onto their next game already, and I think theres a possibility it will be Heavenly Sword 2. Based on what they learned from Capcom with DmC, I think HS2 would be a great game for them to do next.