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AlphaCielago said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
AlphaCielago said:
hivycox said:
Well we will see that


Not worth it man. He does this all the time.


What happens if I am correct? You know full well that is the crux of the issue. The porting issue to the Wii U was one i've been warning about for a long time. Its been a gaming media concern as well and Nintendo will feel the burn with lack of multiplats for it. 


I'm  not doubting that this game won't come to the Wii U I'm neither doubting that the Wii U will have mediocre third party support. However, I just don't know why you write this all the time. Wii U will obviously have mediocre third party support, but the way you wrote it sounds to me that you think that you are always correct. I don't disagree, neither do I agree all the way with most of you posts. I'm most of the time actually on the latter.


Thats perfectly fine and I hate to seem pushy, but he was talking to someone else in complete disblief that the Wii U could be left out of anything, so I decided state things. Also if you read his sig, it says "Nintendo Defense Force". Ironic....



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PureDante said:
Thief 4? Where the hell was thief 1-3?


Likely released before you started gaming.

Thief 1 and 2 are ancient by todays standards are were available only on PC, developed by a studio long gone (Looking Glass) and published by Eidos before they went bust and Square Enix bought them (at the time when they were called Squaresoft).

Thief is largely attributed with inventing the modern stealth game, it had gameplay elements never before seen and slow-paced, tactical gameplay, it also had optional objectives and introduced a setting and style where the character had very little gear to help himself with, this in a time of plenty where shooters and other games threw you more ammo, guns, swords, potions and other stuff than you could shake a stick at.

The series also introduced one of the coolest characters ever in a game in its main protagonist, Garret, and the fact that he's not actually a protagonist at all but mostly serves his own ends makes it all the more sweet. The game was wholly unique and was equal parts funny, entertaining, exciting, scary, clever and challenging.

The second Thief game showed us one of the first first-person steampunk inspired adventures, it has a cool mix of ancient mechanics, alchemy, magic and good old plating and steel. It saw some really original equipment and gameplay as well (such as Garrets mechanical eye that he can connect to spying cameras he throws on the ground).

What I liked best about them was the fact that your objective was not to kill anything and everything in sight, in fact, that was near impossible since you're not a fierce warrior (but still dangerous as long as you remain hidden), you were stealing things, covering tracks, knocking people unconscious etc. Fantastic games with a unique atmosphere and some of the most incredibly cool, stylized cutscenes I've seen in a game.

The third Thief is a good game as well, only not as good as the two first ones, its a lot more updated on the visual front and has a more modern feel and interface than the previous games but not as much charm, depth and richness to the gameplay.

I recommend all three games though, games like Dishonored, Skyrim, Gothic, Hitman, Uncharted, Dark Messiah of Might & Magic, Metro 2033, S.T.A.L.K.E.R, Bioshock, Fallout and basically all other modern games with decent or good stealth elements took most of their cues from the original Thief games and, in that regard, they are just as influental as Half-Life, Call of Duty and Halo in some aspects. Go play them! Now!



It will be nice to have a proper stealth game again, after the twin fiascos of Splinter Cell Conviction and Hitman Absolution.



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S.T.A.G.E. said:
AlphaCielago said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
AlphaCielago said:
hivycox said:
Well we will see that


Not worth it man. He does this all the time.


What happens if I am correct? You know full well that is the crux of the issue. The porting issue to the Wii U was one i've been warning about for a long time. Its been a gaming media concern as well and Nintendo will feel the burn with lack of multiplats for it. 


I'm  not doubting that this game won't come to the Wii U I'm neither doubting that the Wii U will have mediocre third party support. However, I just don't know why you write this all the time. Wii U will obviously have mediocre third party support, but the way you wrote it sounds to me that you think that you are always correct. I don't disagree, neither do I agree all the way with most of you posts. I'm most of the time actually on the latter.


Thats perfectly fine and I hate to seem pushy, but he was talking to someone else in complete disblief that the Wii U could be left out of anything, so I decided state things. Also if you read his sig, it says "Nintendo Defense Force". Ironic....

I'm not a fanboy. As my sig says I'm just defending Nintendo but as many around here I also criticized themfor decisions made in the past like the catridge use instead of CD's or Gamecubes mini discs. But IMO The Wii was one of Nintendos best decisions ever made.

A fanboy bashes all other consoles and puts their own favorite one on top of the world. I'm doing neither of both of them because I'm a Nintendo fan and Nintendo fans are often like this.

to your response:

I also believe the Wii U will have a mediocre 3rd party support but I never stated something other than that! I merely stated the Wii U will have a better support than the Wii had. So yes you statement is right: I don't believe the Wii U will be left out of anything because I won't.

Like AlphaCielago already said the one who sounds like a fanboy is you. If you don't want to sound like it than write things better



To the Wii U discussion

Since the SNES Nintendo home consoles don't get any good 3rd party support. Wii U will not be different despite being able to run the engines this time around. They have two major disadvantages.

One is most certainly way lower installed hardware base compared to Wii.

The other is the Wii U architecture is different from PC/PS4/720 whichare very similar and a port to either platform will be very cheap.

Thief on Wii U is unlikely unless sales of the Wii U really pick up. Until complex physics will be part of the core gameplay Wii U will be able to run stripped down versions of any PS4/720 game if the developer wants. But I doubt that the Investment will see a good enough return so they will end up doing something else.



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PullusPardus said:

I fucking love Eidos 

Deus Ex , Hitman ,Tomb Raider , now this  ,and maybe soon Legacy of Kain (please?) , im glad that Square Enix aren't forcing stuff on them.

But how can u say Tomb Raider? Aren't you against hand-holding and the trend of dumbing down games?



Mummelmann said:
PureDante said:
Thief 4? Where the hell was thief 1-3?


Likely released before you started gaming.

Thief 1 and 2 are ancient by todays standards are were available only on PC, developed by a studio long gone (Looking Glass) and published by Eidos before they went bust and Square Enix bought them (at the time when they were called Squaresoft).

Thief is largely attributed with inventing the modern stealth game, it had gameplay elements never before seen and slow-paced, tactical gameplay, it also had optional objectives and introduced a setting and style where the character had very little gear to help himself with, this in a time of plenty where shooters and other games threw you more ammo, guns, swords, potions and other stuff than you could shake a stick at.

The series also introduced one of the coolest characters ever in a game in its main protagonist, Garret, and the fact that he's not actually a protagonist at all but mostly serves his own ends makes it all the more sweet. The game was wholly unique and was equal parts funny, entertaining, exciting, scary, clever and challenging.

The second Thief game showed us one of the first first-person steampunk inspired adventures, it has a cool mix of ancient mechanics, alchemy, magic and good old plating and steel. It saw some really original equipment and gameplay as well (such as Garrets mechanical eye that he can connect to spying cameras he throws on the ground).

What I liked best about them was the fact that your objective was not to kill anything and everything in sight, in fact, that was near impossible since you're not a fierce warrior (but still dangerous as long as you remain hidden), you were stealing things, covering tracks, knocking people unconscious etc. Fantastic games with a unique atmosphere and some of the most incredibly cool, stylized cutscenes I've seen in a game.

The third Thief is a good game as well, only not as good as the two first ones, its a lot more updated on the visual front and has a more modern feel and interface than the previous games but not as much charm, depth and richness to the gameplay.

I recommend all three games though, games like Dishonored, Skyrim, Gothic, Hitman, Uncharted, Dark Messiah of Might & Magic, Metro 2033, S.T.A.L.K.E.R, Bioshock, Fallout and basically all other modern games with decent or good stealth elements took most of their cues from the original Thief games and, in that regard, they are just as influental as Half-Life, Call of Duty and Halo in some aspects. Go play them! Now!

I started with Sonic 2 on the Genesis, still never heard of it. But, aside from Gothic and Dark Messiah, I've played the rest of the bunch. If Thief inspired stealth at all, then I'll consider looking into the new one :)



All of this, of course, is just my opinion.

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Slimebeast said:
PullusPardus said:

I fucking love Eidos 

Deus Ex , Hitman ,Tomb Raider , now this  ,and maybe soon Legacy of Kain (please?) , im glad that Square Enix aren't forcing stuff on them.

But how can u say Tomb Raider? Aren't you against hand-holding and the trend of dumbing down games?

im playing it and enjoying it.

the same with Hitman, it was linear too , but it was still hitman.