Michael-5 said:
It was renamed Metal Gear Solid :P If the series is Metal Gear, then how come only non main series Metal Gear Solid games omit the name solid? Ac!d and Rising are not a part of the meain MGS series, even though MGR is canon, it's not a MGS game.
Anyway I'm not arguing that the game is canon or non canon. It's canon, just like Yoshi's Story is canon to the Super Mario World games, but just like Yoshi, MGR is not a Metal Gear Solid game.
Would you consider Yoshi Story a main series Mario game? No, and most people (i imagine) don't consider MGR a main series Metal Gear Solid game. However the world of forums is different from the real world, most people don't put this much thought into games and get games because they look cool (like MGR).
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I can't believe we're still talking about this xD
So, let me get this straight. You say the saga is actually Metal Gear Solid, and not Metal Gear? Then you justify it by saying that Yoshi Story does not fit in Mario, but Mario itself is a saga build upon different games and franchises on its own, not just One Mario Franchise, the rest being not part of the "main" series. Assuming this, we should say that, up to this day, Donkey Kong is still an evil character, because he was the bad guy before Bowser appeared. In fact, Bowser is not part of the main series Mario, as you say, because he appeared later.
If we do apply this logic, then yes, Metal Gear Rising is not part of what you say the main series is: Metal Gear Solid. My point is, both are part of the main serie Metal Gear; and both are canon: the same way as Mario&Luigi, Mario Sunshine, Yoshi Story, Luigi's Mansion, Paper Mario, Mario Kart and all his sport games are part of the Mario series.
I would consider Yoshi Story part of Mario series, yes.
And I repeat myself, Metal Gear Rising is not Metal Gear Solid. That much is obvious. The fact that Metal Gear Rising is build upon the closure of Metal Gear Solid, is planned to be a franchise on its own (without forgetting its root) and expand the overall story of Metal Gear saga makes it canon, and part of the Metal Gear series.