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Chandler said:

It's because the PS4 can't handle PS3 games. The CPU is literally too weak.

 

Edit: And yes, the next Xbox will face the exact same problem.

Seriously unless you are prepared to tender proof of employment at Microsoft, and proof that you work in the division that houses the consoles. You are quite literally talking out of your ass. It is quite juvenille, and quite tiresome. You could be right, but then again you could be wrong. We will have to wait until Microsoft unveils its next console for us to know one way or the other. Stating something as a fact requires proof. If you don't have proof say that something is your personal opinion, or a possibility that you feel is worth considering.

Sony got a number of boons by unveiling first, but they also got a fair share of crosses to bare. This is one of them, and like it or not as of right now this failure is all on them, and nobody else. At least until someone announces that they too will be failing to offer backward compatibility. Trying to insinuate future poor behavior on a part of another to justify poor behavior on the part of Sony. Is the very definition making a piss poor argument.



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Dodece said:
Chandler said:

It's because the PS4 can't handle PS3 games. The CPU is literally too weak.

 

Edit: And yes, the next Xbox will face the exact same problem.

Seriously unless you are prepared to tender proof of employment at Microsoft, and proof that you work in the division that houses the consoles. You are quite literally talking out of your ass. It is quite juvenille, and quite tiresome. You could be right, but then again you could be wrong. We will have to wait until Microsoft unveils its next console for us to know one way or the other. Stating something as a fact requires proof. If you don't have proof say that something is your personal opinion, or a possibility that you feel is worth considering.

Sony got a number of boons by unveiling first, but they also got a fair share of crosses to bare. This is one of them, and like it or not as of right now this failure is all on them, and nobody else. At least until someone announces that they too will be failing to offer backward compatibility. Trying to insinuate future poor behavior on a part of another to justify poor behavior on the part of Sony. Is the very definition making a piss poor argument.


Where did I say that the next xbox will not have bc?



Ongoing bet with think-man: He wins if MH4 releases in any shape or form on PSV in 2013, I win if it doesn't.

I didn't realize PS3s would all spontaneously melt down once PS4 released.

This is a serious problem!



Dodece said:
Chandler said:

It's because the PS4 can't handle PS3 games. The CPU is literally too weak.

 

Edit: And yes, the next Xbox will face the exact same problem.

Seriously unless you are prepared to tender proof of employment at Microsoft, and proof that you work in the division that houses the consoles. You are quite literally talking out of your ass. It is quite juvenille, and quite tiresome. You could be right, but then again you could be wrong. We will have to wait until Microsoft unveils its next console for us to know one way or the other. Stating something as a fact requires proof. If you don't have proof say that something is your personal opinion, or a possibility that you feel is worth considering.

Sony got a number of boons by unveiling first, but they also got a fair share of crosses to bare. This is one of them, and like it or not as of right now this failure is all on them, and nobody else. At least until someone announces that they too will be failing to offer backward compatibility. Trying to insinuate future poor behavior on a part of another to justify poor behavior on the part of Sony. Is the very definition making a piss poor argument.

You honestly think that the Nextbox will be powerful enough to emulate the 360, or that they would introduce backwards compatibility through hardware (even though the architecture has almost been confirmed to be completely different)?

I'm not saying it's impossible, but to get so worked up over him stating something that is extremely likely as fact, is ridiculous.



wfz said:

 http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/02/21/playstation-4-not-backwards-compatible-with-retail-or-digital-games

 

I don't understand this. Don't people purchase PSN titles and own them? Why can't they transfer them to the new console? I was a bit upset at the way Nintendo handled the Wii digital title transferring, but at least they had a system (even if crude) in place. Sony is giving absolutely nothing.

 

Hopefully this changes between now and when the console releases. Digital profiles should be tied to the user and playable on any device that uses those profiles. If I bought a new PC and Valve said "sorry, you can't play your old Steam games on your new PC. Re-buy them!" I would be hella pissed.

transfer can not be done yet because, of hardware incompatiblity, and not because you suddenly have to buy them again.   So, right now it is not possible, but once they become emulated, or streamed via gaikai, if you already have them bought through the PSN store, then you will be able to play them in your PS4, because you already bought them, and they are attached to your account.

Something similar with PSP games and PSone classics on the VITA.  Once they became emulated, you could re-download it on the PSVITA without any additional cost, because they are already attached to yout console.

Obviously at first there wont be much to select from, but as time passes most of the digital library of PS3 games will be available at the PS4 PSNStore.



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BasilZero said:
brendude13 said:

What Gaikai can do hasn't been fully confirmed yet, it's possible PSN titles will be backwards compatible through Gaikai, but how it will be paid for is also unkown.

The future doesnt look as far as that idea is going - hopefully they dont go the "Vita" method when it comes to b/c although I can see it happening...at least with PS3 physical copies.

It's a shame that I can't play Crisis Core on the Vita, but they did the right thing in my opinion. Nobody wants noisy, expensive, large UMDs in their handhelds anymore.

The PS4's only option for backwards compatibility for the PS3 would be through Gaikai. I don't see how physical copies of PS3 games and Gaikai would work together.



PScollector said:
I wouldnt expect them 2, like others have said its different architecture, and theres some big changes from the PS3 to the PS4.

yeah but eventually via emulation or Gaikai, the games will be available for download through the PS4 PSstore.  Something similar with PSP games and PSone classics for the VITA, they required to be emulated in order to be playable in the device.



It's a different achitecture and, on top of that, PS4's CPU is simple nowhere near enough the power needed to emulate Cell. X360 could do with an emulator because the hardware was much more powerful than an original Xbox, PS4 wouldn't be able to do the same, and I doubt Nextbox will also be able to emulate X360.



I can live with seeing what the PS4 has to offer,it would have been great but I guess they are just too different



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zuvuyeay said:
I can live with seeing what the PS4 has to offer,it would have been great but I guess they are just too different

but still Sony is on its way to provide emulation or gaikaisation of PS3 games :D