Nintendo's consoles don't sell western devs' games well, unless they are casual games (Just Dance, etc. etc.)

Luckily, Nintendo only need themselves and Japanese 3rd party devs and they can support a console all by themselves. This is good news on the long run, as Nintendo just becomes more and more self-sufficient.

They do need to learn to cater to the market that western 3rd party devs are able to attract though, on the long run.

Mass Effect 3 is a pretty nice port actually, I own it on Wii U.

Agreed, but I think support from the West is already there, it's just that right now many of those developers are making tough business decisions (like Ubisoft has with Rayman). Funny enough though, I think we have to see PS720  before we can see bigger 3rd party support for the WiiU. I think by then, the WiiU would have an even bigger installed user base and 3rd parties would be thinking to maximise sales of their next gen games by having them on the 3 new platforms, because having a new game on just 1 or even 2 consoles probably wouldn't yield the best sales. So I think 3rd party support in the form of the next Modern Warfare, Assasins, etc will be on the WiiU, because it wouldn't make much business sense not to be I think.

it is comparable because they have to delay the wii u version if they won't loose potential sales for ps3 and 360 (mass effect was only an example, was about every port). if wii u would get rayman now, the wii u version would be only 20€ or so when it would release in september for 360/ps3 and with that they could hardly try to get full price with the same game on another console and only 1/3 of the price in the same store. because then, 360/ps3 owners will say the same as wii u owners said to the ports on wii u at release "i won't buy that, it's already much cheaper on other consoles"

and who cares if they "promised" it will be an exclusive? wii u is selling bad and games on that as well (asscreed 3 sold 100k, one of the best-selling games of the last years). ubisoft has to find new ways to sell their game. they already released an excluisve game for wiiu so they already saw how that worked for them financially. everyone who is a rayman fan should look at what is best for rayman and not if that game is promised as exclusive.

technically perhaps, but it was ported under horrible circumstances, last part of trillogy, in time when full trilogy at same price was released on other platforms etc.

 I did read this info when it was posted on these forums.

My response to this was something along the lines of:

"This is why retro gaming market is growing in value as people have the freedom to play their games how they want when they want."

I also mentioned that this gen has pissed me of with patches and updates as it allows devs to be lazy and turn the general public into beta testers. The biggest problem I have is ot the fact we are the beta testers but how will I play my games 10 years from now (with my kids to show them what I had when I was younger), if I have no access to the patches again because the servers are down and I either uninstalled the game or my PS3/360 had died so I bought another one from eBay.

Essentially the main reason people liked console gaming over PC gaming was because in the past you just put in a game and it worked out of the box.

Saying all that, I have no problem with patches and updates on PC as well they are generally exe files you download that can be stored away as backups. So even if they go down from the internet I can always patch the games to work.

And that's exactly why it doesn't make any sense.

That was bundled though. I know, that's how I bought my Vita.

Nintendo REALLY needs to hurry up with Pikmin 3. Beyond that there's hardly any games coming out for the Wii U until fall.

Or they could sell it at a reduced price. Considering the competition in September, they'll need to anyways.