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damn mister you have balls to make this thread , respect.

btw i totaly agree



 

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happydolphin said:
Immortal said:

Considering the rest of us have to tolerate the words "unrealistic", "appaling" and "robbery", I think you can humour me.

Not really, you're always like this. The attributes I'm using are actually relating to my points, whereas your are simply insulting my PoV.

Rolstoppable said:

So this another one of this thread's where you are trying to force your opinion on everyone.

Newsflash: Opinions differ and people can buy what they want with their money. So what you'll see in this thread will be a lot of people that tell you that they gladly paid $50 for Nintendo games and don't regret it one bit.

Also, if others are offering more interesting games at a much better price, then why aren't they outselling Nintendo games? The obvious answer is that others aren't offering more interesting games at better prices and their only option to even compete with Nintendo is to drastically undercut Nintendo's prices.

In my humble opinion, Nintendo is selling at that price on brand alone, and that can only go so far.

Had super mario been released on Steam with no prior name recognition, at 60$, you can be sure Trine 2 will destroy it in sales. Temple Run is selling much more than Nintendo games, so is Angry Birds, so if it's sales you need you have them. League of Legends probably has an immense userbase at the moment.

From Wikipedia: As of July 2012, League of Legends had over 32 million registrations and averages 12 million players worldwide per day, with the number of concurrent users online at any given time peaking over 3 million. Players also collectively log 1 billion hours per month, making League of Legends the world's most played video game[46][47]

People bought Mario for 50$, I'm thinking that with the increased competition from the marketplace, with games of IMHO competing value, the markup will no longer be in Nintendo's favor. I'm not sure how this is me imposing my opinions on anybody...

This single word makes me disagree with your post: Temple Run is a free game, as are Angry Birds and League of Legends. As such they are guaranteed to VASTLY exceed the Mario games sales (except LoL totally doesn't), additionally the combined userbase of Android and iOS / PC vastly exceeds the userbase of the current Nintendo consoles, providing further DOWNLOADS. 

 



I know what you mean. Monday Night Combat, a downloadable third-person shooter, is 800 Microsoft Points, or $10. Therefore, I am appalled that Microsoft and Sony have the gall to charge $60 for Gears of War and Uncharted.

Wait, what?

I don't believe anyone would agree with what I just said. So, unless you mean to imply that 2D sidescrollers in general are somehow not worth as much as other genres, the OP makes absolutely no sense. Nintendo's continued success in this area is evidence that people find their prices fair, and the developers behind Trine and Limbo would absolutely love to sell their games for $50 or $60. The problem is, no one would buy those particular titles at that price.

And before anyone accuses me of bias toward one price/format/whatever else, I recently purchased both New Super Mario Bros U and Trine 2: Director's Cut, thoroughly enjoyed both, and thought they both provided great value for their prices.



Could I trouble you for some maple syrup to go with the plate of roffles you just served up?

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"Ok, girl's trapped in the elevator, and the power's off.  I swear, if a zombie comes around the next corner..."

Maybe it's just me, but I find that Nintendo's games, though they are 5 times as expensive, take about 5 times as long to play through and/or complete. I mean, I really like VVVVVV, and it's about 10% of the price of NSMB2, but it only takes about 3 hours to beat the main game, and the bonus quests are generally garbage. NSMB2, though it lacks the ingenuity of VVVVVV at its best, is much more consistent, takes 30 or 40 hours to collect all the star coins, and also has Coin Rush mode.

So, in short, I'd say that both games are appropriately priced. Maybe I'd think differently if there were more cheaper games that could match the Mario style, but there aren't. Most of the Great indie/downloadable platformers avert Nintendo-style tropes and mechanics, so that they simply play differently.



Love and tolerate.

Lol at implying that Braid and Super Meat Boy are anywhere near the level of quality of NSMB and Donkey Kong Country Returns



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happydolphin said:

I find it really appalling that Nintendo permits itself to sell its old school platformers (et al.) at an MSRP of 59.99$ and 39.99$ for portable offerings.

Super Paper Mario: 49.99$

New Super Mario Bros. Wii: 49.99$

Kirby's Epic Yarn: 49.99$

Donkey Kong Country Returns 49.99$

NSMB 2: 39.99$

NSMB U: 59.99$

 

When games on WiiWare, the e-shop, steam, PSN and XBLA are offering competing products at a much more reasonable price:

Limbo: 9.99$

Trine: 9.99$

Trine 2: 14.99$

Braid: 9.99$

vvvvvv: 4.99$

Super Meat Boy: 14.99$

Bit. Trip. Beat: 9.99$

And though this isn't a platformer:

League of Legends: Free

 

These Nintendo games sold like mad when the Wii was at its peak, but is it reasonable to expect that trend to continue?

In the meantime the 3D landscape is rifted into realistic games and more laid-back experiences, it seems that this market is not properly understood by Nintendo.

My friend don't waste your breath with people who only talk games instead of buying them.



happydolphin said:
forest-spirit said:
Out of those "overpriced" games I've played NSMBWii and DKCR and they are totally worth full price in my book.
Just because you don't see that kind of value in those games doesn't mean that no one does.

I see you liked Minecraft. Minecraft had an MSRP of 26.95 on release . Is that a competitive offering to the games you listed?


..... I payed 50 dollars to go out and get some drinks with some friends downtown.  I also went to Chili's with my wife and got just as drunk for 30 dollars.  I don't feel either was unreasonable, becuase they are providing to differnet experiences.



KHlover said:
happydolphin said:
Immortal said:

Considering the rest of us have to tolerate the words "unrealistic", "appaling" and "robbery", I think you can humour me.

Not really, you're always like this. The attributes I'm using are actually relating to my points, whereas your are simply insulting my PoV.

Rolstoppable said:

So this another one of this thread's where you are trying to force your opinion on everyone.

Newsflash: Opinions differ and people can buy what they want with their money. So what you'll see in this thread will be a lot of people that tell you that they gladly paid $50 for Nintendo games and don't regret it one bit.

Also, if others are offering more interesting games at a much better price, then why aren't they outselling Nintendo games? The obvious answer is that others aren't offering more interesting games at better prices and their only option to even compete with Nintendo is to drastically undercut Nintendo's prices.

In my humble opinion, Nintendo is selling at that price on brand alone, and that can only go so far.

Had super mario been released on Steam with no prior name recognition, at 60$, you can be sure Trine 2 will destroy it in sales. Temple Run is selling much more than Nintendo games, so is Angry Birds, so if it's sales you need you have them. League of Legends probably has an immense userbase at the moment.

From Wikipedia: As of July 2012, League of Legends had over 32 million registrations and averages 12 million players worldwide per day, with the number of concurrent users online at any given time peaking over 3 million. Players also collectively log 1 billion hours per month, making League of Legends the world's most played video game[46][47]

People bought Mario for 50$, I'm thinking that with the increased competition from the marketplace, with games of IMHO competing value, the markup will no longer be in Nintendo's favor. I'm not sure how this is me imposing my opinions on anybody...

This single word makes me disagree with your post: Temple Run is a free game, as are Angry Birds and League of Legends. As such they are guaranteed to VASTLY exceed the Mario games sales (except LoL totally doesn't), additionally the combined userbase of Android and iOS / PC vastly exceeds the userbase of the current Nintendo consoles, providing further DOWNLOADS. 

You're not following the thread...

He asked me

"Also, if others are offering more interesting games at a much better price, then why aren't they outselling Nintendo games?"



nintendo would never see my money.



Metallicube said:

Lol at implying that Braid and Super Meat Boy are anywhere near the level of quality of NSMB and Donkey Kong Country Returns

I wasn't implying quality I was implying value... Where value can be a result of quality and/or any other contributing factor.....

Also, they were two among many others, many I haven't even listed.