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You can find cheap shooters, RPGs, action games and just about everything else for under 10 dollars on iOS. Does that mean that all the games from these genres need to get realistic and drop their prices?

Until the market shows Mario or even Kirby at $50 making less revenue than any one of those cheap online games, your argument is ridiculously desperate and hopelessly disconnected with how consumers see it.



 

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Immortal said:
You can find cheap shooters, RPGs, action games and just about everything else for under 10 dollars on iOS. Does that mean that all the games from these genres need to get realistic and drop their prices?

Until the market shows Mario or even Kirby at $50 making less revenue than any one of those cheap online games, your argument is ridiculously desperate and hopelessly disconnected with how consumers see it.

I'm not sure the words "ridiculous", "desperate" or "hopeless" are needed.

Thanks.

Until you change your tone I'm not addressing any of your points.



happydolphin said:
Spazzy_D said:
I beat God of War 3 in 8 1/2 hours. Never wanted to play it again. I've played New Super Mario Bros. 2 for about 30 hours. First game cost me 60 bucks, the second 40.

Which one ripped me off more?

I didn't like GoW, so maybe that's a bad example?


Ha, well you can use the same formula for Uncharted or really any other big game this gen that isn't either A.) Focused on Multiplayer or B.) A Sandbox game or RPG.

The point remains that video games are a terrible value proposition.  If you don't want to get ripped off, go buy a book. (Can't get a better hours per dollar enjoyment ratio anywhere else.)



happydolphin said:
Immortal said:
You can find cheap shooters, RPGs, action games and just about everything else for under 10 dollars on iOS. Does that mean that all the games from these genres need to get realistic and drop their prices?

Until the market shows Mario or even Kirby at $50 making less revenue than any one of those cheap online games, your argument is ridiculously desperate and hopelessly disconnected with how consumers see it.

I'm not sure the words "ridiculous", "desperate" or "hopeless" are needed.

Thanks.

Until you change your tone I'm not addressing any of your points.

Considering the rest of us have to tolerate the words "unrealistic", "appaling" and "robbery", I think you can humour me.



 

“These are my principles; if you don’t like them, I have others.” – Groucho Marx

I find it funny that Nintendo is being targeted with this, really. You should know that pretty much any console game that isn't download-only are going to be like this.
You can say "The Tales of series is a waste of money because even though it takes a long time to beat, most of the time you're just doing _____, they could easily charge $10 for the game."

You also put "platformers" in your title but there are CLEAR examples that you listed that aren't platformers, so my point stands because you really aren't talking only about platformer games.



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happydolphin said:
Spazzy_D said:
I beat God of War 3 in 8 1/2 hours. Never wanted to play it again. I've played New Super Mario Bros. 2 for about 30 hours. First game cost me 60 bucks, the second 40.

Which one ripped me off more?

I didn't like GoW, so maybe that's a bad example?

No, it's not a good example. It's his opinion, just like how you saying Nintendo's games aren't worth their price is your opinion.

It's as simple as that, we all have our opinions on this matter.



Donkey kong country was by far worth it. I don't know about the other 2d marios though. Trine 2 was also worth it's price.



Spazzy_D said:
happydolphin said:
Spazzy_D said:
I beat God of War 3 in 8 1/2 hours. Never wanted to play it again. I've played New Super Mario Bros. 2 for about 30 hours. First game cost me 60 bucks, the second 40.

Which one ripped me off more?

I didn't like GoW, so maybe that's a bad example?


Ha, well you can use the same formula for Uncharted or really any other big game this gen that isn't either A.) Focused on Multiplayer or B.) A Sandbox game or RPG.

The point remains that video games are a terrible value proposition.  If you don't want to get ripped off, go buy a book. (Can't get a better hours per dollar enjoyment ratio anywhere else.)

Haha, what? Harry Potter and the Philosopher's stone cost us $25 when it released and I need 2 hours to read it. Super Smash Bros. Brawl. cost me $60 and I have already invested 600 hours into the game. I didn't feel ripped off by either one, but hours per dollar for a book  are a bad example :) 



KHlover said:
Spazzy_D said:
happydolphin said:
Spazzy_D said:
I beat God of War 3 in 8 1/2 hours. Never wanted to play it again. I've played New Super Mario Bros. 2 for about 30 hours. First game cost me 60 bucks, the second 40.

Which one ripped me off more?

I didn't like GoW, so maybe that's a bad example?


Ha, well you can use the same formula for Uncharted or really any other big game this gen that isn't either A.) Focused on Multiplayer or B.) A Sandbox game or RPG.

The point remains that video games are a terrible value proposition.  If you don't want to get ripped off, go buy a book. (Can't get a better hours per dollar enjoyment ratio anywhere else.)

Haha, what? Harry Potter and the Philosopher's stone cost us $25 when it released and I need 2 hours to read it. Super Smash Bros. Brawl. cost me $60 and I have already invested 600 hours into the game. I didn't feel ripped off by either one, but hours per dollar for a book  are a bad example :) 


Not when buying hardcover best sellers new, lol, but you can buy most books now a days for under 5 dollars.  I can also make a case for retro or used gaming, but modern "AAA" gaming does not provide much bang for the buck.  MMOs. which get criticized for monthly payment plans, actually aren't too bad as they are crazy time sinks.

Anyway, this is all completly off topic... I was jsut pointing out that a lot of "high quality" gmaes that people don't mind spending 60-70 dollars on don't have as much lasting apeal as platformers that cost less.  That being the case, who is being robbed?



Immortal said:

Considering the rest of us have to tolerate the words "unrealistic", "appaling" and "robbery", I think you can humour me.

Not really, you're always like this. The attributes I'm using are actually relating to my points, whereas your are simply insulting my PoV.

Rolstoppable said:

So this another one of this thread's where you are trying to force your opinion on everyone.

Newsflash: Opinions differ and people can buy what they want with their money. So what you'll see in this thread will be a lot of people that tell you that they gladly paid $50 for Nintendo games and don't regret it one bit.

Also, if others are offering more interesting games at a much better price, then why aren't they outselling Nintendo games? The obvious answer is that others aren't offering more interesting games at better prices and their only option to even compete with Nintendo is to drastically undercut Nintendo's prices.

In my humble opinion, Nintendo is selling at that price on brand alone, and that can only go so far.

Had super mario been released on Steam with no prior name recognition, at 60$, you can be sure Trine 2 will destroy it in sales. Temple Run is selling much more than Nintendo games, so is Angry Birds, so if it's sales you need you have them. League of Legends probably has an immense userbase at the moment.

From Wikipedia: As of July 2012, League of Legends had over 32 million registrations and averages 12 million players worldwide per day, with the number of concurrent users online at any given time peaking over 3 million. Players also collectively log 1 billion hours per month, making League of Legends the world's most played video game[46][47]

People bought Mario for 50$, I'm thinking that with the increased competition from the marketplace, with games of IMHO competing value, the markup will no longer be in Nintendo's favor. I'm not sure how this is me imposing my opinions on anybody...