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NeoRatt said:
The Wii U will go down in history as one of the worst selling consoles ever. Only 2.5m sold to date, xbox 360 (which is 6 years older) is selling double the Wii U (there seems to be no supply issues where I live, Wii U is in stock everywhere), the PS3 (5 years older than the Wii U) is almost tripling the Wii U.

Nintendo's approach to the Wii U was flawed. The touch screen is not something that appealed to the demographic from the original Wii, the thought process of re-releasing games already on other consoles on the Wii U to make the launch look large didn't appeal to existing PS3 or 360 owners nor the vast majority of existing Wii owners, they still really lack a trophy/achievement system, lack Blu-ray (not good for a new console shipping in late 2012), and the storage on the device is a joke at 8 or 32GB.

Once the Next Xbox and PS releases the Wii U will be long forgotten as it won't have the technical capability to compete with them. Wii U will be lucky to see 10 million in sales by the end of 2013. The only thing that can save it would be an amazing and innovative games lineup for holiday 2013. And even that probably won't save it.

Although I love Nintendo as a games company, I think their hardware days are coming to an end. Nintendo will probably join the ranks of Sega and become a 3rd party developer at some near future point (1-4 years).

i agree with this post, people talk about they need more games have no idea how the market works, nintendo fans say third party games like COD and AC3 don't count, cause they are on 360/ps3 well then you have mario and zombiie u, i just don't see how a system doing vita numbers right after it came out, all of a sudden is gonna start selling cause of a few games, like 3d mario or mario kart, it might give it a small boost, but nothing gonna save system that just has no appeal, if third partys games dont count what do they expect to save it, mario 3d and mari kart, when 2d mario just failed.



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ninjablade said:
NeoRatt said:
The Wii U will go down in history as one of the worst selling consoles ever. Only 2.5m sold to date, xbox 360 (which is 6 years older) is selling double the Wii U (there seems to be no supply issues where I live, Wii U is in stock everywhere), the PS3 (5 years older than the Wii U) is almost tripling the Wii U.

Nintendo's approach to the Wii U was flawed. The touch screen is not something that appealed to the demographic from the original Wii, the thought process of re-releasing games already on other consoles on the Wii U to make the launch look large didn't appeal to existing PS3 or 360 owners nor the vast majority of existing Wii owners, they still really lack a trophy/achievement system, lack Blu-ray (not good for a new console shipping in late 2012), and the storage on the device is a joke at 8 or 32GB.

Once the Next Xbox and PS releases the Wii U will be long forgotten as it won't have the technical capability to compete with them. Wii U will be lucky to see 10 million in sales by the end of 2013. The only thing that can save it would be an amazing and innovative games lineup for holiday 2013. And even that probably won't save it.

Although I love Nintendo as a games company, I think their hardware days are coming to an end. Nintendo will probably join the ranks of Sega and become a 3rd party developer at some near future point (1-4 years).

i agree with this post, people talk about they need more games have no idea how the market works, nintendo fans say third party games like COD and AC3 don't count, cause they are on 360/ps3 well then you have mario and zombiie u, i just don't see how a system doing vita numbers right after it came out, all of a sudden is gonna start selling cause of a few games, like 3d mario or mario kart, it might give it a small boost, but nothing gonna save system that just has no appeal, if third partys games dont count what do they expect to save it, mario 3d and mari kart, when 2d mario just failed.

Don't mind me; I'm just quoting these posts to preserve them against any possible future editing. Carry on, gentlemen.



What's MH3 U release date ? Then I might get one. No other game really raise my attention. I've played TLoZ:WW to phuck already on GC. Speaking of which, had the best launch for a ninty console ever !! Rogue Squadron 2, Wave Race, Luigi's Mansion, Extreme G, Super Monkey Ball. Now that were good time :cranky kong mode off:

However, with the sheer avalanche of games PC will get in the two next months, WiiU bros will have to change platform to fulfill their gaming needs...



Like it has been speculated several times during Wii's lifetime and more so during the last few years, when Wii sales started to drop abysmally, Nintendo is now being hit by the fact that casual gamers (the biggest chunk of the Wii's audience, by FAR) are not loyal at all to brand and they just buy seasonal or temporary stuff which is what's popular at the moment and what's aired on TV constantly, positive word of mouth being highlighted here.

However, WiiU isn't that "got to have it" thing anymore, and I doubt that the majority of Wii users were dedicated gamers who played games with passion. I'd wager that a high percentage, 75% or more, were casual buyers being carried off by the hype that was flooding the media during the Wii's best years. Nintendo made some terrible decisions which ended up burying the Wii suddenly and killing the Wii brand, and that is now being carried to their newest console.

Core Wii owners probably felt ignored and betrayed by the lack of support, localization denials and overall casual look of the console. Nintendo had to sacrifice their image to go towards an audience which was going to buy their console, but an audience that will not be coming back, because Nintendo is not in the headlines anymore. Negative press is now the norm for the WiiU, that coupled with new must buy things that were absent during Wii's early years, like android phones, iPhones, tablets and other gadgets are the reasons why Wii U isn't managing to attract casual buyers.

Consumers are also more tech savvy today than they were 6 years ago. They know what they want for their dollars and there's so much more coming out today, that perhaps a $300 gaming machine that has nothing of interest for a person that barely plays games, is not on their top priorities. The 8 and 32GB of storage capacity also make it look like a poor choice, when much older and cheaper pieces of hardware have way bigger drives, no matter if it's HDD or SSD, the common consumer won't care.

To put things into perspective, the console had a lot of potential to become really big, but lack of information and publicity by Nintendo made it look like this was a mere upgrade to the Wii. Nintendo practically remained silent until the launch, almost no one was aware outside the internet gaming community. No news made the headlines, no one knew how would the console play, there was no "must buy" piece of software or anything that could show the machine's potential and create curiosity among possible buyers. And although launch was successful because of the tech enthusiasts and Nintendo fans, majority of possible consumers weren't even aware of this. Casual gamers still content with their Wii's and core gamers probably owning one of the other two HD machines have both narrowed their sales target.
And now next gen systems are around the corner, while current gen 360 and PS3 are both still very attractive choices with much more coming out.

Wii U had a lot of potential with the off TV Play, Miiverse, Asymmetric GamePlay, touch controls, Dual screen capabilities, all the things Nintendo could have highlighted and reminded us of to build up hype, but it all went unnoticed and now a mist of negativity engulfs it, taking away the chances of them being seen. Support is not coming anytime soon and no one is talking about their console. Both essential to attract core and casual buyers respectively. This sudden change of strategy shown by Nintendo during last ND is something that had to be done many years ago. Being secretive about a new console, what the hell is that? I mean, you are trying to sell your products and yet deny your probable buyers to know what to expect? Now early adopters are probably going to be a bit more relaxed about the future of their console, yet upset about the lack of support. Iwata once again apologized, and that is now becoming the norm. Investors will be deeply upset and defrauded by the overshot expectations which will be undoubtedly cut in their upcoming Q3 briefing.

Can Nintendo turn things around? I doubt it, as they are still resorting to the same tired formula. Even if their games are masterpieces, they lack brand originality. No new established IP's for years already, and people are like been here, done that with all the upcoming Mario games. Nintendo needs to begin thinking about moving on, they can't always rely on the same mascot, no matter how successful it has been in the past. NSMBU (Which looks like a rushed final-hour decision endeavour) sales prove this, as do Nintendogs+Cats and the new Brain Training sales, which is why I'm expecting Wii Fit U sales to be miserable. They have to start taking high risks and resolving problems at a faster rate. Consumers have been ignoring their home consoles since 2011 and their new system is already zombified, so they must go all out soon, even before E3. I will always state that the launch of the console was rushed, Nintendo should have waited a year, to have proper exclusive support, not old ports that damage the systems reputation and incomplete or missing online experiences like the promised TVii, the Virtual Console, user accounts, and a slow and clunky OS. Console is even lacking 1st party support, so that is very telling. That or Nintendo should have decided to start handling out dev kits about 2 years ago and focus more on the console launch to have it fully and properly functional before it released.

I admit I'm very tired and assume that my post is flawed at various stances, so please correct me, as I'm well open for a nice discussion because I'm embracing this topic with passion. I love Nintendo, but I dislike their current ways and approaches.

Edit: Let me add that a price drop will be very damaging to the Nintendo brand as a whole and from an investors point of view, even if it may help improve sales. It would be showing that the Wii U's value is lower, and that Nintendo as a company is incapable of learning from past mistakes, even from those that happened less than 2 years ago. Early adopters will probably be moving away from Nintendo come next gen if a price drop is announced before next year arrives.



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It has an identity crisis and does not know who it's consumers are.... it was either a year to late, or a year to early, depending on who you ask. Maybe that's why Nintendo isn't marketing it.

Mostly though, it doesn't have enough games and isn't needed by the casuals or the hard core, with a price drop and more must haves it'll probably do alright, I'm thinking at least better then the Gamecube and original Xbox.



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It's name is Wii U. That is the problem.



I said it once and I'll say it again, Nintendo management got greedy and made a bad decision to launch the console before it was fully ready, to try and squeeze a holiday sales boost. The original release should have been Spring 2013, but management thought it would start like the 3DS did. Now they are pulling their hair out for months with no new games because even the Nintendo first party titles were nowhere near ready for such an early launch.



newwil7l said:
It's name is Wii U. That is the problem.


The name has nothing to do with it,

The problem with the Wii U is that the casuals don't know anything about it they are still playing the Wii/Kinect. Nintendo has nothing mind blowing to attract them like they did with the Wii. At the end the WiiU will sell like the N64.



As many people have said, software and price are the two major reasons why the Wii U is not selling. Right now it looks grim, but I am confident that Nintendo will be able to turn this around like they did with the 3DS.



Deyon said:
newwil7l said:
It's name is Wii U. That is the problem.


The name has nothing to do with it,

The problem with the Wii U is that the casuals don't know anything about it they are still playing the Wii/Kinect. Nintendo has nothing mind blowing to attract them like they did with the Wii. At the end the WiiU will sell like the N64.

xbox=xbox360

wii= wii u

 

casuals don't really care about graphics or gaming, i doubt they care about any nextgen system coming out, they buy things more on impulse.